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[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 144 points 9 months ago

Person hired as meat puppet mouth piece for owner continues to defend owner.

Details at 11.

[-] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 69 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

For $6 Million a year, fuck yeah I'd consider it myself. You don't even look bad if you fuck it up because the world's richest fuckwit outshines every possible fuck up every step of the way.

[-] Colorcodedresistor@lemm.ee 20 points 9 months ago

i would gladly get paid 6 million to defend...Almost anyone.

[[if the glove does not fit, you must aquit intensifies]]

Me : shakes 6 mils in front of Lemmy

Lemmy:

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[-] Zellith@kbin.social 136 points 9 months ago

Yaccarino said she is "immensely proud to lead this company," and told employees they should feel the same. "You're at X because you have the courage and conviction to build and operationalize the most consequential platform that exists. That's quite an enviable position to be in," Yaccarino wrote.

Meanwhile in March...

Elon Musk fires senior Twitter employee who slept in office to meet deadlines

It's almost as if they will say anything.

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 83 points 9 months ago

Let’s be real, you’re at X because you’re on a visa and can’t leave without being kicked out of the country.

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[-] AcidOctopus@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago

Yep, it's like it's her generously compensating job compels her or something.

Who'd have thunk it?

(For real though, what did people expect her to say?)

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[-] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 103 points 9 months ago

She's a pathetic weasel who gets paid handsomely to talk absolute horseshit and shill for her boss.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 35 points 9 months ago
[-] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 27 points 9 months ago

Same. It wouldn't make us good people worthy of respect and admiration, but it would make us rich.

[-] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

Don’t pretend you wouldn’t for that paycheque

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 74 points 9 months ago

Imagine if your job was to defend this over-privileged man-child.

These sycophants never get the reward they dream of either. They always just get tossed aside at the first slip up.

[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 9 months ago

They always just get tossed aside at the first slip up.

... with a bonus of a few billion.

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[-] WheatleyInc@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

Advertisers, please do this to YouTube too. I need the dislike count back.

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[-] Goodbyeworld@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Edit - I never read any comments since the first two.

Edit - it’s ironic that the uncompromising ideology of the left is making Trump 2.0 inevitable. Absolute shame. Read the room folks.

Edit - next day: wow, 60 downvotes. I must have hit a nerve close to truth to illicit a response beyond indifference. 16 upvotes, decent ratio. I’m pretty sure that speaking in support of speech protections will become more of a freedom of religion issue in the years to come, as post-Marxist critical theory takes on more and more of a dogmatic, theological place in intellectual society. I can assure not each of you is at the end of their political and ideological journeys, and happy to have planted this seed. May it bloom. -Omar

Lemmy might hate me for this… Musk is right on speech. It’s not often that those in power will have the moral compass to justly decide what ideas can be said and what cannot. Without free speech protections, none of the LGBTQIA+ movement, or other social movements, would have taken hold. It sucks that extremists will espouse hurtful views, but it’s absolutely critical that the speech of minority voices be protected. What will the world be like if the assholes win and say the only legal speech is something that would completely abhor us today. Look at speech in Russia. I believe the country has just designated LGBTQIA+ activists terrorists. What will happen if the wrong people get power in the USA or Europe?

Edit: I’m not going to reply any more. I’ve said my piece.

Edit: one more edit for the downvotes. Someone you don’t like can have a correct idea. Someone who you admire can have the wrong idea. There’s an argument that speech protections should extended into the defacto town squares (short of harassment, etc…), and because of the reasons I stated above, it’s an important humanitarian issue. I’m not some asshole troll trying to stir anything up, just wanted to voice an idea I feel is important. Wish you all well.

Another edit 30 mins later: I’m an HSP with PTSD, so as much as I would like to chat and learnt some other perspectives, my nervous system has a hard time with stimulation when I don’t feel safe that I can be speaking to someone in good faith. I understand this may seem counterintuitive to my argument, but I still think speech protection is an important humanitarian issue that is worth dealing with speech I don’t agree with.

Edit: 1 hour later. Well, I never thought it would get this much disapproval. May you all live life with wisdom and honor and light. And may you never be silenced in your pursuit of justice. Peace.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 45 points 9 months ago

He owns a major social network and his remarks are regularly repeated in the press. Who or what is harming his free speech? The constitutional right to free speech is protection from the government punishing someone. The advertisers are exercising their right to be associated or not with what happens on “X”.

[-] toofpic@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

Yeah, some Yung Fucky Dee rapper can flip birds all day, catering to his fans, but he won't expect that Disney will offer him a collab project. There's a completely different level of requirements for being a successful major social network owner/ceo

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[-] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

Elon is not free speech, he regularly bans, fires or bullies anyone that disagrees with or makes fun of him.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Elon is free to say or agree with whatever wild point of view he chooses and advertisers are free to decide they don’t want their brand associated with that kind of take. That isn’t a free speech issue, it’s the free market that Elon pretends to love in action.

He doesn’t want free speech, he wants consequence free speech which has never been a thing.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 25 points 9 months ago

If you look at musjs actions, he shuts down speech he doesn't like. He is only a proponent of free speech that benefits him.

I agree, minority voices should be able to freely say what they want. Nobody has the right to force others to listen, though.

The principle of free speech is good, but it too has limits. Musk is not a proponent of free speech and Twitter is no longer useful for activists or political organisation. Probably why the totalitarian governments invested in it. To shut down that type of use.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

I am a huge proponent of free speech personally, and I exercise it regularly. However, I do not believe it is a right to be able to force your speech into places it is not wanted.

Free speech should also include other people's right to be free from your speech, if they so wish. It is not a right to force your speech onto others against their will.

In actual fact, it is only one thing, and that's the letter of the law. Congress shall make no law that infringes. It says nothing about corporations or individuals, who have the right to do as they wish. And frankly, if you want to fuck up some corporations, we'd probably be happy to help with that. Don't listen to conservatives trying to say woke is censorship. It's a lot more complicated than that, as usual.

Feel free to pm me a reply if you'd like to have your say, but rather not engage in public.

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[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago

Entirely sure that lgbtqia people were actively silenced despite "free speech" laws in America and were arrested and beaten plenty for it

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Fwiw, you got my up vote for contributing an honest opinion to the thread. Totally excellent in that regard.

Where I disagree is in thinking that muskrat is making decisions based on a moral compass defending free speech. He will gladly suppress speech he doesn't like, given a chance.

I would also point you towards the so called tolerance "paradox". There must be limits to what is tolerated, or the whole thing breaks down. And that's coming from someone that's pretty damn tolerant of extreme speech as a matter of principle. But the truth is that musk has free speech. He has publicly made statements, and has not received governmental interference in his ability to say dumb shit. Nor have any of the idiots spewing bigoted rhetoric.

I will also exercise my free speech and say that I will gladly put my foot up the ass of anyone that says the same shit as musk approved of in my presence. Freedom of speech does not equate freedom from consequences of speech. That includes my preference for kicking the shit out of bigots, advertisers backing away, etc.

Edit: I would also encourage anyone finding this to go and upvote the person I'm responding to. They made a comment in good faith, that was on topic and honest. That should be an opportunity to have a good conversation about it, no matter how many times it's been covered before. It's an important conversation to repeat. The boundaries of one of the core human rights (that of freedom of speech/expression) is too important to not merit repeated discussion.

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[-] mhague@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

By the way, where's the clarification that Musk said he should've posted? He endorsed a white supremicist conspiracy (on accident, surely!). Called it foolish -- no, not because he endorsed Nazis, but because now his haters have more ammo. (???) Half a month has passed. It's petty, because I wouldn't believe his story even if it were airtight, but he could at least try.

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[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

I pity the ceo who has to cleanup after him

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 64 points 9 months ago

Never pity a CEO. Ever. They make a quarter of a million doing less than you with only a golden parachute.

[-] bostonbananarama@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago

They make a quarter of a million...

You haven't seen CEO compensation lately. She makes between $6-12m depending on bonuses and stock options.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

$6-12m depending on bonuses and stock options.

Considering the ad revenue I think it will be closer to 6...still a good payday.

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[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago

Yup. By all accounts she's been a shitty boss everywhere she works, with a penchant for dealing with bad news by sticking her head in the sand. Big Trump fan too.

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[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 26 points 9 months ago

I don't. She took the job and got that shit sandwich all to herself.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Nobody put a gun to her head to take this gig, she knew or should have known what she was getting into.

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