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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 79 points 1 year ago

TL;DR: why does the Steam Deck have a small screen and run Linux? Oh, that's why.

Kind of strange that this article is written like the author was a fool and then learned their lesson, but hey I'm not a writer.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 year ago

Yeah, a lot of this stuff is pretty obvious.

This kind of article is good for general people to see though, because a lot of people who haven't used the deck assume higher resolution screen is better and windows will be better than Linux.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 23 points 1 year ago

Valve made all these points when the Deck first released, but I guess some people didn't believe it til other devices ignored their warnings!

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People forgot ps2 times where everyone enjoyed 480p 20fps gta games and enjoyed it, now everyone needs 8k 240fps, Nintendo proves again and again that's gameplay that matters, not fps and resolution

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Gameplay is important, but if the Scarlet and Violet launch have taught pokemon fans anything, it's that QA testing is equally as important.

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[-] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago

I don't get why the reviews complains about Linux on the Deck - why are they even touching the OS? It's not needed at all for most cases.

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago

Anticheat.

The casual friendly hyper-monetized nonsense that needs to install malware to "ensure fair play" (or sell loot boxes and spy on you) doesn't run.

[-] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago

This is one of the few legitimate complaints. Good point.

[-] ekZepp@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The funny thing is that Valve actually manage to have some very good working anticheat running but most of the genius companies decided instead of using their own new buggy ( super breakable ) anticheat.

[-] squeakycat@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Interesting point. I wonder if this person spent hours trying to get that kind of junk working without an understanding of the OS (Their comfort level was hinted at through the article)

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a Madden addict (not ultimate team, which is a cool idea ruined by monetization, just real teams head to head), I spent a bunch of time trying to jump through hoops to play it on Steam Deck. I went as far as installing windows to a microSD and trying to run it off that (because making it the actual OS or letting it touch my drive was unacceptable to me) before giving up.

I ended up refunding, but I can see the motivation and frustration if something you're really into doesn't work when it should. (The previous version didn't have anticheat and ran like a charm).

[-] squeakycat@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Ha. Been there, spending hours and hours trying to get some game working. I'm thankful it's been so much better in recent years. So much more painful a decade or so ago.

That said, I never had to work around anticheat stuff. That sounds tough.

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[-] M500@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago

I can’t play like 5 games.

I don’t get it either, Linux is fine for gaming at this point. Now it’s such a small amount of games that don’t work.

[-] firecat@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Not a small amount it’s a big amount. You have to stop assuming everything is on steam and working outside of steam.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Me playing Alan Wake 2 on my linux desktop:

What?

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Can you share some examples that are not in steam that don’t work?

[-] soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago

Especially after adding the game to the Steam Library and launching it either through Proton (if it's a Windows game) or enabling the Steam Runtime (if it's an ancient Linux game).

[-] firecat@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

All browsers games that require installation, Nexon games, foreign games not available in USA or Europe, a game made in custom code or another language, all PC-98 games, CD games (unavailable to be digitally made), servers games like Pangya or NFSW. ETC, the list goes on and on, sure YOU think some of these games are bad or should be gone but that’s besides the point of how not to always use one software for games.

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

A lot of the games you listed would have the same issue on Windows. Additionally it likes like pc-98 can work on Linux.

I don’t see why CD games wouldn’t work on Linux. You can connect a disk drive just like you can in windows. And can then make an iso of the cd for convenience.

One game you listed, Pangaya shutdown.

I’m not saying everything works on Linux, but at this point the large majority does.

Others have pointed out other titles that are pretty popular that don’t work on Linux. So if that game is important to you, I don’t blame you for not using Linux. I use windows for work for the same reason.

But just be fair.

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[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Dude, most of us have hundreds of games on our Steam accounts with only 1-2 not able to run on Linux. Either you're a troll or have no idea what you're talking about

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[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I can’t play like 5 games.

And are those games worth playing? From what I've seen it's mainly battle royale and sports games that have anti-cheat set up to deliberately break Linux compatibility

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[-] soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago

Familiarity.

If an alternative isn't 100% identical to a tool one is used to, one automatically has reservations, and the slightest inconvenience immediately turns into a blocking issue. On the other hand, one is typically inclined to ignore problems with tools one is used to.

There isn't much one can do about this, other than trying to keep an open mind, and being aware of that bias.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah but you don't even need to see the underlying OS, just the familiar Steam client. I love Linux and use it on all my PCs and servers, but I never use desktop mode on the deck, no need to when all your games are on Steam.

I'd get a complaint like "some of my games don't run", but I honestly don't understand what he means when he writes "Wrestling with Linux on my Steam Deck has been a nightmare since day one".

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 year ago

it came with some unexpected problems. The biggest one came from the feature I was most excited about: Windows.

[-] Veraxus@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

With the increasing popularity of these different form factors and device types, it seems like people are finally starting to realize just how horrible Windows is… especially for gaming.

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[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, as soon as I read that I stopped. The writer is an idiot

[-] zaphod@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but... think about it for a second: we're now in a world where a Linux-based OS is, in certain contexts, better for playing games built for Windows than Windows.

As a person who's been running Linux on his devices for almost 30 years now, that's incredible and I absolutely understand why folks would've initially been skeptical.

[-] hushable@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

not defending the author, but there were plenty of people with a "no windows no buy" mentality prior to the steam deck release.

It is surprising to still see them around.

[-] neveraskedforthis@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Were Valve to let its competitors implement SteamOS on their devices

...

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[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

Excellent case of "We told you so" 😂

Dude pretty much went

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