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The Legion Go made me thankful for my Steam Deck
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I don't get why the reviews complains about Linux on the Deck - why are they even touching the OS? It's not needed at all for most cases.
Anticheat.
The casual friendly hyper-monetized nonsense that needs to install malware to "ensure fair play" (or sell loot boxes and spy on you) doesn't run.
This is one of the few legitimate complaints. Good point.
The funny thing is that Valve actually manage to have some very good working anticheat running but most of the genius companies decided instead of using their own new buggy ( super breakable ) anticheat.
Interesting point. I wonder if this person spent hours trying to get that kind of junk working without an understanding of the OS (Their comfort level was hinted at through the article)
As a Madden addict (not ultimate team, which is a cool idea ruined by monetization, just real teams head to head), I spent a bunch of time trying to jump through hoops to play it on Steam Deck. I went as far as installing windows to a microSD and trying to run it off that (because making it the actual OS or letting it touch my drive was unacceptable to me) before giving up.
I ended up refunding, but I can see the motivation and frustration if something you're really into doesn't work when it should. (The previous version didn't have anticheat and ran like a charm).
Ha. Been there, spending hours and hours trying to get some game working. I'm thankful it's been so much better in recent years. So much more painful a decade or so ago.
That said, I never had to work around anticheat stuff. That sounds tough.
I wasn't even trying to bypass it. I had a separate microsd I was going to run windows from just for Madden. But you don't have a lot of options when they don't think you've given them enough invasive access.
I did bend the knee and get it for PS5 eventually, so I guess they still won.
Why does a madden game need anticheat though
There have been exploits. You could break the AI to get an insta-sack for a while.
I don't think anti-cheat helped with that though. The actual reason is ultimate team. They don't want anyone exploiting them instead of paying money.
I can’t play like 5 games.
I don’t get it either, Linux is fine for gaming at this point. Now it’s such a small amount of games that don’t work.
Not a small amount it’s a big amount. You have to stop assuming everything is on steam and working outside of steam.
Me playing Alan Wake 2 on my linux desktop:
What?
Can you share some examples that are not in steam that don’t work?
Especially after adding the game to the Steam Library and launching it either through Proton (if it's a Windows game) or enabling the Steam Runtime (if it's an ancient Linux game).
All browsers games that require installation, Nexon games, foreign games not available in USA or Europe, a game made in custom code or another language, all PC-98 games, CD games (unavailable to be digitally made), servers games like Pangya or NFSW. ETC, the list goes on and on, sure YOU think some of these games are bad or should be gone but that’s besides the point of how not to always use one software for games.
A lot of the games you listed would have the same issue on Windows. Additionally it likes like pc-98 can work on Linux.
I don’t see why CD games wouldn’t work on Linux. You can connect a disk drive just like you can in windows. And can then make an iso of the cd for convenience.
One game you listed, Pangaya shutdown.
I’m not saying everything works on Linux, but at this point the large majority does.
Others have pointed out other titles that are pretty popular that don’t work on Linux. So if that game is important to you, I don’t blame you for not using Linux. I use windows for work for the same reason.
But just be fair.
Genshin Impact doesn't work.
Genshin works on my steam deck. You just have to add the installer to steam as a non steam game and then tell it to run in compatibility mode with proton.
It does, since 3.8 it doesn't activate mihoyo protect. Besides, there were community projects bypassing the anti-cheat
Huh interesting. Wasn't aware of that (3.8).
The anti-cheat is so annoying. Really wish they just made it easier to play on Steam Deck. I am aware of the community projects but haven't tried them yet. Id rather not risk a ban.
That said, I don't play this game enough to want to install Windows anyways.
Been playing since May on Linux with an FPS unlocker and have no issues. Game requests all shaders on launch so there's no stuttering
Thanks! I was not aware of this. Do you play this game? It looks interesting, but I’m worried it’s a game that will require me to keep paying to progress.
Let them finish building the game first, then I think it'll be fair to talk about compatibility.
That’s unfair. By that logic all EA games are also excluded /s
Hey, hey. Let's not forget Bethesda games.
Looks like it works.
https://lutris.net/games/star-citizen/
Lutris can be used as a launcher for games and users can generate launch scripts to get games to work.
I use this only if something does work through proton alone.
I had 3.18 running on my Deck, just as an exercise in my own curiosity. 10-15fps on the lowest settings wasn’t great, but it worked. Credit where it’s due, that’s damn impressive for a PC that fits in your palm.
The only real blocker was that gameplay isn’t feasible on that tiny screen; the game just isn’t intended to played like that.
Star Citizen absolutely works on Linux. I've played it myself without issue when I got a drake Corsair
Dude, most of us have hundreds of games on our Steam accounts with only 1-2 not able to run on Linux. Either you're a troll or have no idea what you're talking about
Those 100s of games need modification or changes to the settings that impact your gameplay. That’s not how anyone should play Linux games and shouldn’t be restricted to because of company being lazy about Linux.
None of the ones I've played have needed any modification besides turning down graphics settings occasionally. Dunno what you're on about.
What settings? What impact on gameplay?
For over a year now, I've just been buying games, hitting download, waiting, then hitting the big'ol green "PLAY" button, and the game starts up same as windows.
The whole point of proton is that it's not up to devs to "support" linux, it doesn't matter if they don't even try to, proton has gotten so damn good at pretending to be windows that it doesn't matter anymore.
Even my windows VR games work with it.
The windows versions of games in proton, sometimes run better than poorly made native linux ports.
And are those games worth playing? From what I've seen it's mainly battle royale and sports games that have anti-cheat set up to deliberately break Linux compatibility
That really depends on the person, for me, it’s a deal breaker. If your game won’t work on Linux, I won’t play it.
Sadly, I don’t have this luxury with my work software. But I’m hopeful that things will change. I could probably make it work if there was just one app that worked on Linux.
Keep in mind that unless you are working in CAD, you're almost guaranteed to have a good alternative that works on Linux
Familiarity.
If an alternative isn't 100% identical to a tool one is used to, one automatically has reservations, and the slightest inconvenience immediately turns into a blocking issue. On the other hand, one is typically inclined to ignore problems with tools one is used to.
There isn't much one can do about this, other than trying to keep an open mind, and being aware of that bias.
Yeah but you don't even need to see the underlying OS, just the familiar Steam client. I love Linux and use it on all my PCs and servers, but I never use desktop mode on the deck, no need to when all your games are on Steam.
I'd get a complaint like "some of my games don't run", but I honestly don't understand what he means when he writes "Wrestling with Linux on my Steam Deck has been a nightmare since day one".
I'm not following what your first point has to do with the filesystem?
I dual boot Windows 11 on mine, and it makes me feel like a deviant on this site. I just slapped Playnite on it, and it became fine enough for GP games.
Unless the game isn't on steam, then you do have to touch the OS