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[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 52 points 2 years ago

I was given an old Samsung S4 for use at work recently, for scanning QR codes with primarily.

I’m an iPhone guy, so am lost with Android, but the version it was locked to was ancient and massively out of date. I did a bit of research, and after a few hours of trial and error I’ve got it running on Lineage 14.1, with a few useful apps downloaded from F-Droid. It’s gone from an old hunk of trash to a perfectly usable device that won’t win any awards for its benchmarks, but is spot on for what i need it to do.

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Only 14.1? Now granted, there's so many different models that it might not apply to all of them, but the european/and qualcomm jfltexx for instance runs 18.1 just fine
(well, it's showing its age with Android 11, but still very usable)

[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 15 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it might be able to go newer, but as I said, Android is an alien land to me, and what I seemed to find on XDA Forums was that this particular model of S4* is only supported as far as 14.1. There’s so much info out there that it’s too easy to get overwhelmed, so I got to a point that enabled what I needed and left it. Willing to accept any further advice, mind.

*Turns out there are several variations of S4, ranging from the I9500 Exynos processor one I have here, to several different versions running Qualcomm silicon.

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Ah, the Exynos variant. It's not even listed as being supported at all, so good to hear that it worked anyway

[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it was disappointing to say the least to see people on YouTube showing how to install 18.1 on an S4, then discovering that this one can only go up to 14.1. But that’s still two Android versions more recent than the official support, so I’ll take it.

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[-] Shimitar@feddit.it 40 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't dream to use any stock android at this point. Been on LOS forever and each new phone I buy either check if Los is available or, in one case (my current phone) I ported Los for it myself.

[-] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 13 points 2 years ago

How hard is it to port LOS? I've been wanting to do it for a couple obscure devices I have but I've read the documentation and felt overwhelmed.

[-] Shimitar@feddit.it 13 points 2 years ago

Its hard but rewarding, and perfectly doable given you want to do it.

Note that there are a few mandatory requirements for a port to be feasible, like unlocked bootloader and vendor sources available for kernel.

As newby, you also want already existing ports to start from.

Also, some powerful hardware to build on (32+gb ram, 10+ cores, 100+GB storage).

Also older (up to A11) can be real bitches, after A12 things are improving a bit.

[-] scarilog@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

How do you port it? Don't you need access to the device tree files iirc?

[-] Shimitar@feddit.it 11 points 2 years ago

You need to copy or grab or create the device tree files. Usually by cloning a similar device. Vendor files are extracted from stock rom. Kernels, you need an official release from vendor to start width.

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[-] varnia@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago

If we could fix the issue with non working Google Wallet/Google Pay, that would be great.

But it is also worrying that there there seems to be only Apple and Google Pay in Europe - no alternative solution for wireless paying.

Other than that, Lineage OS on my 9T feels great. Battery life got almost doubled and it feels great to use a device with all current security patched installed. Next step would be to use a completely degoogled version with only FOSS software installed - just for some app there are no real alternatives available: Banking app, Fitness watch app, Carsharing app etc

[-] mWH@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

Fitness watch app

Check out Gadgetbridge!

[-] alphapuggle@programming.dev 12 points 2 years ago

Ironically, I always end up rooting lineage just to pass the security checks to make Google pay work. Smooth one Google

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

What even is the purpose of Google Pay? I don't know anyone who actually uses it but some people act like its a necessity? We have cards that you can just tap these days. Isnt that making Google and Apple Pay useless?

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[-] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

Check out /e/os, the only problem I found is it is more difficult to interact with some google services and others are not supported but you can always use a browser to access them

[-] Pat@kbin.run 4 points 2 years ago

magisk delta + play integrity fix has worked well for me. using google wallet without an issue

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[-] jherazob@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

For the needs of "degoogled but fully functional Android OS" these days at the end of 2023, the options are LineageOS for most phones, GrapheneOS on a Pixel, and that's it? Or are there more projects at this point?

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago

/e/OS and many others. Look up your model on xda-developers.com, where most ROMs are published. The most commonly supported devices are Google Pixels because AOSP is officially developed by Google for them.

[-] curve@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago
[-] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Most phones from one year back, yes. If you want something from 2023 it better be an FP5 or a Pixel

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

iodeOS, calyxOS, /e/OS are all good projects. divestOS are also good, ~~but probably not usable for most, because of the lack of google play alternative.~~ it now works with unprivileged microg. However use of microg is still is unsupported and unrecommended according to the website.

paranoid android seems to still be a thing. The introduction on the website is sparse, and I havent tried it. So I cannot speak for how good it is.

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[-] AnEilifintChorcra@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

DivestOS https://divestos.org/ same developer for Mull browser

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[-] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

What are the stats for Graphene and Calyx?

[-] helmet91@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

You mean, *LineageOS devices.

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[-] dynamo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Wish my phone supported it

[-] deania@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

There isn't a version of LineageOS available for my phone : (

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Which phone? If there's a will, there's a way, if you want then find "manifest" file for your phone and compile recovery then compile lineage os and flash it, there's instructions how to compile step by step and how to flash

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[-] keyez@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Installed it on my old oneplus 6 who's only issue was battery life to get it from android 11 to 13 now that it is back to my daily driver since my Samsung s20 broke. It's running great

[-] Senseless@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Having a OnePlus 7 Pro and I was thinking about switching OS to get Android 13 and current security patches. Are there any cons to switching OS? What about basic functionality (NFC, WiFi/data connections, Bluetooth, Calls and so on)? I guess I need to somehow save app data if I don't want to lose 600+ tabs, had any experience/issues with that?

How about the performance and battery life?

[-] keyez@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

WiFi, mobile data, Bluetooth and VoLTE all still work fine. Performance and battery is about the same as when I used oxygenOS11 for about a week before going to lineageOS. Only con is the need to wipe the phone so make sure things are all backed up! I missed a few folders and photos before wiping the device.

[-] knifer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

OnePlus 7 Pro owner here. Currently running the Pixel Experience ROM. Pretty stable. Although I haven't really tried NFC as there no use for it where I live. You can check out the xda thread.

[-] nx2@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately it seems to suffer from the same problems that other custom ROMs like GrapheneOS have these days. The same goes for if you root your stock OS. Like all the normal Android stuff works (even better) but as soon as you want to for example use the tap-payment features or the ID stuff from your government it doesn't work. Also good luck trying to use for example Samsung smartwatches

[-] epyon22@programming.dev 16 points 2 years ago

I have reasonable luck with magisk and root/unlock hiding plugins.

Many days it just feels like you aren't allowed to own your own device and you have to make a choice whether you can use a device the way you like or use those apps. I wish PWA were more common because they meet many of my needs and has many of the security features that the anti root apps are looking for anyways.

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I don't see why most of that would be necessary. Why do you need to be able to pay from your phone rather then a card? Why do you need your ID on your phone rather then a card?

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[-] moitoi@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

I have no issues with Gpay on custom roms. You need the right moduls to make it works. Also, Zygisk is a thing.

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