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[-] Maco1969@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If there's a hill the UK is prepared to die on this is it, 99.9 percent of Falkland Islanders voted to remain part of the UK in a UN observed open election subsequent to the UK retaining control of the islands. Argentina has never maintained any form of civilian population there in nearly 150 years, they want the oil and fishing rights.

Edit in 2013 another vote was held, 99.8 percent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_referendum?wprov=sfla1

[-] plistig@feddit.de 39 points 11 months ago

First 99.9% then 99.8%? So, the support for a Falkexit is rising! Only give it a few hundred years and those Falklandiands are ready to join Argentina!

[-] Eopia@feddit.de 25 points 11 months ago

Support for Falkexit doubled, a clear sign for the Islanders wish for independence. /s

[-] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Now 3 people support it, instead of 2! (No, literally)

[-] HydraulicMonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

An incredible 50% increase!

[-] anzo@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

Interestingly, those islands are on argentinean sea. There're international laws that would say they are argentinean land... Even if they were occupied since maybe even before the two English invasions on Buenos Aires, a few centuries ago.

[-] Narrrz@kbin.social 24 points 11 months ago

actually, I think you'll find, Argentina falls within BRITISH seas, extending outward from the shores of the Falklands.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 23 points 11 months ago

Bad news, though: I just found out that large swathes of southern England are in France's territorial waters, and the entire city of Manchester is owned by Liverpool for the same reason.

[-] anzo@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago

Haha. Just like the rest of the world then, matey ;)

[-] rainynight65@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Territorial waters extend to a maximum of 12 nautical miles off the shore. States can claim a contiguous zone to up to 24 nautical miles, in which they can exercise some control to protect their territory and customs.

The exclusive economic zone (EEZ), in which a state controls all economic resources, extends to 200 nautical miles off the shore. These are not territorial waters.

All of the above have exceptions where the territorial waters and EEZs of two states would overlap.

The Falklands are 260 nautical miles off the Argentinean coast. So even if those 'international laws' you're so vaguely citing existed, they would not apply here.

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 months ago

5 billion barrels of oil and access to Antarctican minerals says try it and find out. UK has a spiffy new aircraft carrier the Tories would love to send to divert attention from their abject failure to govern

[-] Maco1969@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Maggie 2.0, they would love it, the situation is eerily similar, disgraced failing Tory government waving the flag of empire.

[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Both cut spending to military spending to the point there was questions about the ability of the military to act.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago

And the asylum escapee that Argentina just elected might actually pick this fight because he doesn't know how to govern.

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Picking a fight isn't the same as winning a fight.

[-] Maco1969@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So if Argentina gains votes at the current rate, 0.1 percent per thirty years they will hold a majority in 6000 years.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 points 11 months ago

Try it and find out.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 11 months ago

He has said he wants a diplomatic solution similar to the one that Britain reached with China over Hong Kong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handover_of_Hong_Kong

During talks with Thatcher, China planned to seize Hong Kong if the negotiations set off unrest in the colony. Thatcher later said that Deng told her bluntly that China could easily take Hong Kong by force, stating that "I could walk in and take the whole lot this afternoon", to which she replied that "there is nothing I could do to stop you, but the eyes of the world would now know what China is like".[37]

The military situation of Argentina and China aren't exactly the same.

[-] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

This is biased af

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