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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 133 points 1 year ago

You could definitely have raised a bug report in the time it took you to make this

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 1 year ago

I cannot even determine the culprit, to whom am I supposed to file a bug report?

[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 1 year ago

At https://bugzilla.mozilla.org maybe? Or just look up "firefox report bug" online, I guess

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 88 points 1 year ago

I don't know if Firefox is at fault. It could be Firedragon (the fork I'm using), it could be any of the desktop portals messing things up (looking at you, xdg-desktop-portal-gtk), it could be Arch Linux due to how packagers package each portal, it could be that I stepped on a landmine by switching from Sway to Hyprland - this is when the problem first occurred.

Firedragon's (and the Firefox flatpak's) output doesn't say anything, nothing stands out in their logs, same goes for both Sway and Hyprland - for all I know XDG portals don't even have standalone logs, they just dump error messages to stdout in my experience (which, again, have not been dumped).

I could send bug reports to everyone, and get told "this isn't our problem, write a bug report to ${OTHER_SOFTWARE}". But then, which logs do I provide? All of them? Sure, I can gather up logs and non-existent messages from several pieces of software, one of them being a glorified API.

It would have taken me a good hour to find the relevant data, find the correct places to write reports to, word things in a quasi-professional manner, all for a small chance for any of the developers of something to answer something that is not a variation of "can't help you bro, your logs are anorexic".

So, after reminiscing the days of writing Windows registry keys and seeing no results (by writing XDP hints all over the system AND rebooting), I took 10 minutes to vent and make a meme - NoScript was intefering with imgflip, otherwise I would have needed 3.

I could not, in fact, definitely have raised a bug report in the time it took me to make this.

[-] Rednax@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

The peak linux experience.

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago

Odd, that's exactely what my friends tell me when I'm playing BG3 and a bug causes me to get stuck in dialogue (in a Windows 10 VM)

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[-] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Firedragon is a fork of Librewolf (which is a fork of Firefox), not Firefox. It’s not Firefox at fault.

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Case in point

(although Firefox (the Firefox Firefox) also refused to work)

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I hate not knowing if my bug report is valid.

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[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

In that case you could maybe see if it works correctly for you in firefox installed via flatpak from flathub. Those are official builds and bug reports on them should go to Mozilla directly.

It could be related to hyprland though. I think I read somewhere that one of those lightweight WMs (or whatever it really is idk sry lol) doesn't ship a portals config file for x-d-p to exactly know which exact implementation to use. Maybe arch doesn't have that issue though

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

I've read through all the possible bug reports and forum help requests, and used the flatpak Firefox at every point I tried a solution.

In the end I managed to solve the problem, though I'm sure it'll pop back out at some point.

[-] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

I stepped on a landmine by switching from Sway to Hyprland

That's 100% what it is. Changing desktop environments has almost always led to issues in my experience. If you want to use a different DE, make a new user account or reinstall the distro.

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[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Careful, the FF community here hates it when you point out faults in their "perfect" browser

[-] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago

I disagree.
Some months ago I had weird behavior with compose sequences, I went on the ff c, made a post on it, and there was a fruitfull discussion leading to pinning it on gtk doing compose sequences weirdly. No hate was experienced.

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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago

Everyone involved, worst case they just close them

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As I said in another other comment to someone else, there is a quite noticeable difference in effort between typing sentences on imgflip and hunting bugs.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

Well, you've determined a major part of what's causing it. There is not much more to add, just submit what you have.

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

The only thing I can correctly report is that the termfilechooser portal causes something to die somewhere at some point - it never even worked in the first place.

It's above my 0$/h paygrade at this point

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[-] nogrub@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago
[-] indepndnt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This incident has been logged.

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[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

this is so much better though

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 99 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Addendum: I reinstalled the GTK portal because I was desperate, now I can't even use that UX abomination because who the

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knows

(As it turns out, the cause was a previous attempt to get xdg-desktop-portal-termfilechooser to work - I'm just going to sneak this edit in here and go die in a corner or something)

[-] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 74 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, something being broken because of your previous attempt to fix it.
That's a certified classic.

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

It's not even that, I wanted to try using Ranger as the file chooser because Dolphin would freeze up if it ended up in a tmpfs mount point... which I can deal with if the only alternative is the default GTK file chooser.

[-] balancedchaos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

My recent DNS issue agrees with you. smh

[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My package manager has 400+ updates, but I can’t install them because some packages are conflicting, and I don’t have the willpower to untangle that mess.

~~I use arch btw~~. I use the arch-derivative Manjaro, btw.

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago

~~First time?~~

jdk-openjdk vs jre-openjdk? archlinux.org mentions it, although the workaround it provides is fake news and also results in pacman complaining about conflicts.

I just removed stuff, abused pacman --nodeps and prayed that my backups would be sufficient to restore my inevitable fuckup (no fuckup happened, somehow). Try that at your own risk though...

[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think I’ll just switch to something more user-friendly again. When I installed Manjaro, I thought I liked tinkering. But since then I’ve started working and just want to get home to a functioning computer.

I appreciate the effort, though.

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

Arch and Manjaro tend to have that effect on people, it's understandable

[-] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

I feel this, Fedora filled the gap for me. I needed more current software, but if that isn't a priority Debian is amazing.

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[-] milkjug@lemmy.wildfyre.dev 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@OP, join us in Tumbleweed land. I tried arch btw but it drove me crazy. I don't have endless hours on end to spend on DIY when I am in a hurry to get things to just work™. Tumbleweed with KDE is a refreshing take on the bleeding-edge rolling release distro with sensible defaults and much less teeth gnashing. With arch btw I felt like the whole thing was held together with duct tape and prayers. And I'm certain whatever I did in arch btw, there's an "ackchyually, ..." guy who is going to say that that was wrong.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

Tried tumbleweed on my laptop, bog standard install with only defaults, first update with the GUI, completely deleted all grub configurations but gave no errors or warning on the GUI. Happened twice in a row.

Updating for CLI with YaST had no issues. Wanted to love it, but got a bad taste literal minutes after install.

I am fine on Arch, but I just wanted less hassle and ended up with more hassle. Maybe I will try again soon

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[-] Matombo@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago

Also why for fucks sake does firefox do it's own mime type management and does not respect default applications set on system level!

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago

I dont understand this. I just let it open explorer.exe

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

At the expense of missing what could potentially be a deadpan ironic comment, I would like to divert your attention to the name of the community this meme was posted on

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

I don't understand. I read this on edge.exe.

[-] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Had to nuke xdg-desktop-portal recently. AGAIN. Because they keep introducing a regression that causes all the GTK apps to run at a snails pace and totally ruins the desktop experience. I HATE xdg-desktop-portal. This has happened at least twice before. They can't seem to get their shit together. I wish I could just be rid of it entirely.

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

While it is causing me a ton of headaches, I'm thankful that it gives the user a choice of desktop utilities... I just wish I didn't have to hunt env variables and config files that may or may not be completely ignored.

[-] happyhippo@feddit.it 14 points 1 year ago

I love Firefox and it's my main browser on laptop and mobile.

But as a KDE user, seriously, fuck it. It's a mess.

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