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Does warmer mean temperature? Color? Something else?

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[-] Maddie@sh.itjust.works 178 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Please select all images which evoke melancholy as opposed to existential dread."

[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

"choose the roads that fill you with ennui moreso than the avenues that give you a sense of listless"

[-] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

That’s like, your opinion man

[-] this@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago
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[-] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 89 points 10 months ago

I love how so many of these images meant to fool bots are literally generated by AI

[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago

Because their real purpose is to train the bots. The captcha features are just there to get us to use it.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 76 points 10 months ago

The most surprising thing is how you and some commenters dont see how obvious and dead simple the answer is

Like, should they show you a block of ice and a fire next time?

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 51 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 34 points 10 months ago

Am neurodivergent, didn't even occur to me they'd be talking about snow vs indoors. I thought because it is a visual test they meant color temp which for me registered as the middle left, center bottom, and maybe an argument for bottom right.

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[-] geogle@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Warm could also translate to "cozy" or overall "hue". Neither would necessarily pick the indoor photos. I don't think you need to be neurodivergent to be confused, maybe just a little more artistically minded.

[-] AlternateMrPapaya@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Plus, there's no way to know what the indoor temperature is. There may be no heating in the houses.

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[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

okay that one is understandable, thank you

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

Thanks for reminding me of my neurodivergence, I couldn't figure it out either.

I was starting to think "ok this one looks lit and cozy, and how am I supposed to tell how well insulated these houses are?"

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 24 points 10 months ago

More surprising is how apparently some of you haven’t encountered captchas that employ nuance, and what seems like the obvious answer sometimes isn’t.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

my man, its a blizzard and indoors, what part of that has any more nuance than being beaten over the head with the answer

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The different snow images have different color tones, some matching that of the example image. The center image has a cool color tone, which doesn’t match. Captchas are made to defeat AI logic, so sometimes it’s not the obvious thing. It could very well possibly be selecting all images that match the color tone, something a bot may not work out. It could be just selecting indoor images. I wouldn’t know for certain until I got one of these and succeeded or failed. Personally I think it would be too easy for a bot to just ignore all images that have snow, or are mostly white, because that doesn’t resemble the example image at all.

edit: and in case it needs to be said, getting beaten over the head by anything doesn’t involve nuance. That’s the opposite of nuance.

[-] BluesF@feddit.uk 11 points 10 months ago

Captchas aren't made to "defeat AI logic", the human detection happens in part outside the picture selection part. The picture selection is for training AI. In this case you are training an AI to distinguish the (potentially abstract) concept of warmth.

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[-] moody@lemmings.world 7 points 10 months ago

I couldn't get past "pick the smallest animal"

There was a large picture of a hummingbird, and a tiny panda. Both choices were wrong, apparently. They probably meant that I should pick the pettiest animal.

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago

The thing is that a captcha is made to be solvable by almost anyone.

So whatever you think the answer is, is probably one of the many correct responses.

[-] kralk@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Something that's obvious to you isn't necessarily obvious to everyone.

[-] Old_Dude@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

It even clearly gives an example of a picture of a living room.

[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

The most surprising thing is how you and some commenters dont see how obvious and dead simple the answer is

Like, should they show you a block of ice and a fire next time?

This is an incredibly narrow view of people, and what 'obvious' is. This sentence is absolutely awful if you're ESL in any way:

Please select all images of one type that appear warmer in comparison to other images

Even I stumbled for a second on that sentence. What the hell does 'appear warmer' mean? Colour, hue, saturation, is there a temperature reading on them? It can snow at zero degrees, but that middle image could be -20 for all we know; it's in shadow and the only non-cool-colour in it is that orange rectangle.

I mean, to me, it's obvious that you add an apostrophe to 'don't' but you didn't. Your sentence also doesn't end with a period. Does that mean I get to call you out for missing such an 'obvious' thing, and insult you for not doing it? You know, how obvious and dead simple writing your sentence correctly would be.

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 65 points 10 months ago

I'd be with you if it weren't so obvious.

[-] errer@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Doesn’t look like anything to me.

[-] lwuy9v5@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

I assume this just means "pick inside" without saying it directly. The sample photo is of an inside space. No? The two in the middle row, I assume, are the "correct" answer.

Often the correct answer is only half the puzzle - how you answer (mouse movement) also can be to determine things

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 29 points 10 months ago

Great, now they expect you to be thinking about lighting temperature terms. People who don’t do photography or haven’t read light bulb boxes won’t know wtf this means.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

They could easily mean ambient temperature.

[-] sdoorex@slrpnk.net 20 points 10 months ago

The example shows an interior room which would indeed be warmer. There are two which could be what they want you to select.

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[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 10 months ago

Don't overthink it. Just select the interior ones.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Are you sure about that? Because I’m not. I would have to actually get this captcha and succeed or fail.

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[-] shadearg@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

There's an example at the top along with the instructions.

This ain't exactly the Mississippi.

[-] RaineV1@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago

It's the two that aren't outside in the snow.

[-] Lenny@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago

Exactly. Not that you would need it, but it even gives an example image showing the inside of a room lol

[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Is it the one that's on fire?

[-] BustinJiber@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I worry about commenters in this post that seem to take this as some sort of highly complex problem verging on philosophical rather than a silly little riddle to go through as fast as possible to get to the primary part of website.

[-] FishFace@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

It's the "of one type" that gets me - to me that says I should be examining either the outdoor or the indoor pictures, not comparing between those two types of picture. So I should somehow pick the warmest outdoor or warmest indoor pictures.

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[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

That's exactly what the model is trying to learn.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Whole lot of AIs in this thread.

[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

Go home, robot, you're drunk

[-] dukethorion@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Wait until it has us picking between Good images and Bad ones, to train the AI

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

That is exactly what this is.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

"Please select all targets that should be shot before they have a chance to get away."

[-] nul@programming.dev 7 points 10 months ago

You have to touch the screen. The one thing bots can't do.

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 7 points 10 months ago

I always click randomly on the first 2 attempts to mislead the AI. Hopefully you did the same, and when the robots come to kill us the grease will freeze up and they won't be able to move.

[-] kite@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I got one the other day that had the third column of images completely cut off on mobile. Didn't matter what browser I tried. I had to wait until I could get to a desktop to try and access the site.

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