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submitted 1 year ago by Fitik@fedia.io to c/world@lemmy.world

A US official with knowledge of American intelligence says Hamas has a command center under the Al-Shifa hospital, uses fuel intended for it and its fighters regularly cluster in and around Gaza’s largest hospital.

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[-] Misanthrope@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 year ago

"CIA declined to comment. CNN has not seen the intelligence cited by the US official. "

PICS or GTFO

[-] Fitik@fedia.io 11 points 1 year ago
[-] Misanthrope@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

I'm not understanding your comment. That's probably my fault. My comment was intended as a flippant/sarcastic way of saying, "I need more info before I fully believe that Hamas has a 'base' under that particular hospital".

I'm not saying it's a straight up lie. Just, that's a a statement with no solid evidence, so "get outta here with that".

Sincerely, what was "Is that better?" In response to? I communicated badly so I'm lost.

[-] Fitik@fedia.io 12 points 1 year ago
[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

That's just a picture with a bunch of buildings highlighted. I don't see how that's proof of anything.

Like that "tunnel entrance" the IDF showed off the other day that was just a water resevoir.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Dunno what could be shown to definitively prove it is a Hamas base

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Documentation? Pictures from inside the base? A third party source that has no bias in the situation (heh, good luck) providing conclusive testimony? Literally anything other than an overhead shot that's labeled with "We swear there's hamas here, guys, c'mon let us bomb more civilians!"

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And how do you do any of that without attacking and taking over the place? I got the impression that they hadn't taken it over yet so photos from far away were the best it is going to get.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

"We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas!"

One of the most advanced militaries in the world and they can't figure out anything better?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My point was that it's really hard to convincingly prove something like that. Guns? Well could be planted. Armed people going in and out? Well those could be anyone! Some even took seriously my suggestion that perhaps they should film them walking around with Hamas flags flashing their Hamas ID cards, but that would be so ridiculous that it would be suspicious because of that.

Definitively proving something like that, yeah good luck.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Maybe a bunch of Hamas fighters congregating there?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

How do you show that from photos, are they carrying Hamas flags with Hamas IDs visible?

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Potentially. It's certainly a lot better than an unpopulated, dingy basement and the promise that "it's a bad guy's lair!" from the very same people who blew up the hospital right above it.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Potentially

Lmao

[-] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 2 points 1 year ago

All Israeli soldiers have six pointed stars on their uniforms. Just show combatants that don’t have one.

[-] burchalka@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Videos released by Hamas show ppl in civilian clothing launch Mortars to Israeli territories, so can't really rely on uniforms.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I'm not the guy you're replying to but I do not see an image in your first comment. Lemmy Connect for Android

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago
[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No image on mobile browser version either

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I see a picture, I'm on kbin. It looks like an overhead shot of the hospital with red boxes indicating "This is a Hamas control station".

[-] GuidoMancipioni@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Same on Boost

[-] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Misanthrope@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Must be a Fediverse thing. No pic on my end.

[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Let's just say for arguments sake that it's true. Would that justify idk an air strike on an active hospital? Is that how hostage negotiations are handled? Bomb the bank and be like well the robbers were holed up in the safe underground so really it's their fault we blew all the tellers into a fine bloody mist.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Let's just say that this further proves how hamas using civillian infrastructure as a living shield is an intended thing, if not strategy.

[-] Saxoboneless@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That in no way exonerates or justifies those who are killing patients in an active hospital.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In a way it does. It would be vastly different if Israel would bomb everything while hamas would care about their fellow citizens.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Wait till we find out it was just a hospital basement all along

[-] burchalka@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

There were already videos with rocket launchers placed in kindergarten as well as stored ammunition and hand grenades... Let's see if in several days, a video proof that this specific hospital was used for military purpose too, will pop up.

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Must be a state run pro Palestinian propaganda team. Nobody can be this dense at denying it

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Incoming Hospital Buster Bomb?

[-] qnick@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

This is the footage from under the hospital with comments of IDF spokesperson

https://youtu.be/2EuSxHv-7VQ

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

That's your fuckin proof? Goddamn education fucking failed us.

A deep tunnel near a hospital.... You ever worked at a hospital pal?

[-] qnick@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It definitely failed you. And I'm not your pal.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

If you think short non traceble video of generic hallways and photos with red circles is proof well, then I've a bridge to sell you pal.

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Hamas has repeatedly shown they will use hospitals, schools etc to launch missiles. There's a video of a Hamas guy firing a rocket launcher from a hospital. I'm not sure why so many people see this a unlikely. Pro Palestinian state propaganda teams seems likely.

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