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[-] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 87 points 1 year ago

just shove a 4090 and a forklift battery in there, ez

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But then you'd need to get forklift certified to operate the thing

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago
[-] onion@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

Damn fella, save some ussy for the rest of us!

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago

This is a good thing. We all know valve can't count to 3, so the 2 will be the last one

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't it be Steam Deck 2 Episode 2?

[-] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago
[-] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Steam deck hello this is gabe newel you just purchased a steam deck version more than 2 and less than 4 please email me on GabeN@valvesoftware.com to talk about your game purchases on the steam deck.

[-] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Steam Deck 2 rc 2

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine Valve going the Apple route: "Fuck it, we will design our own hardware to suit our needs" and making hardware tailored to linux.

Edit: what about qualcomm's new ARM: Snapdragon X Elite?

[-] gornius@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I think ARM is their end goal, it's really the only option for a handheld console, as today ARM is the only way you'll get enough performance/power rate to make it both good on battery with good enough performance.

Win-win for everyone if they invest in an open source x86 to ARM project, similar like they did with Wine.

[-] kadu@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

The Switch is more than proof enough that pretty much any modern game engine can compile to an ARM target with zero issues (though Nvidia's low level APIs help, not sure about Qualcomm).

But there's zero chance older PC games would ever be updated, and by older I don't mean ancient, some AAA studios stop issuing updates in about one year after release.

So it all comes down to being able to emulate X86 on ARM... The best example we have is Apple, and games run but with a massive performance hit. Microsoft's implementation is borderline unusable. I'm not sure what to expect from Valve.

[-] Dani551@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

Checkout Box86/64 and Fex-Emu. They both do x86 translation/emulation on ARM Linux and the results are wayy better than any reasonable expectations I had going in.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah ARM is barely more efficient than X86. As soon as AMD went TSMC 3nm they got almost similar power efficiency. As the Apple M chips.

Apples "magic sauce" is just being the first one on the new TSMC nodes.

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[-] uis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Every year they are more likely to go RISC-V.

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[-] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago

Aren't the AMD in Deck 1 using x86 architecture? It would be impossible to change to ARM now. That would mean starting at square 1 and redesigning everything. And games compatibility would be thrown out the window.

[-] uis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

And games compatibility would be thrown out the window.

Computer is like AC. It becomes useless the second you open Windows.

Developers already did half of work for porting on ARM: they ported on Linux.

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[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

Won't ever happen, Apple is a hardware and device company that also makes software to go with it; Valve is a software company that also makes hardware to go with it.

And to go arm would mean throwing out the majority of their current store. Plus arm gaming performance is trash, apples chips struggle to run games 10 years old at 1080p 60fps.

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[-] Dalek_Thal@aussie.zone 19 points 1 year ago

Cool, does this mean they'll actually fucking sell the thing in Australia, or is it just forever going to be dodgy resellers?

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago

The technology to ship this to Australia just doesn't exist yet.

[-] And009@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

They even need a upside down type c cable

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

🎵dream on🎵dream on🎵dream on🎵dream on🎵

[-] dewritoninja@pawb.social 13 points 1 year ago

Welcome to the south American experience

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Back then, we really couldn't engage with a display manufacturer to do exactly what we were after because they didn't really understand the product category, or who would be buying the screen, or why it would matter. Now that picture has changed and we're able to get custom work done.

Why would literally any of those questions be of concern to the screen manufacturer? And I don't understand, did Valve begin work on this in 1918? How could anyone not understand the product category?

[-] Chobbes@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Display manufacturers may understand what Valve might want in a screen, but they might not understand how many units of a screen of such a specification they would be able to sell — is it going to be a custom job for just a few thousand of valve’s experimental console (which may have different degrees of success), or is it going to be something that they can sell to more people and a wider audience.

[-] And009@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Understanding a product and having practical knowledge about building a speciality part are different ball games

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Powerglove style controllers with a holographic screen.

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[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I wonder if the technology they're waiting for is a more powerful arm processor?

[-] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Highly doubt it, because pretty much all games are compiled for x86, and would require dynamic recompilation, which I'm turn costs performance.

Or... they could perform the recompilation beforehand just like the precompiled shaders. Hmmm.. that would make it pretty viable!

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[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are hoping for robot gamer companion Steamy^TM^ to develop enough AI empathy where it doesn't kill you in a rage-quit.

[-] regbin_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Does Steam Deck support VRR on its built-in display?

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[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Qc X elite says hi

Edit: 2.5-3.5x faster cpu and 2x faster gpu at slightly higher tdp (23W vs 19W). Even if the arm x86 emulation has 40% overhead it'd still be faster and more efficient especially at lower power limits where arm shines.

[-] David_Eight@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. This is based on benchmarks from Qualcomm, not Internet reviews right? IDK if I'd be buying tickets for the hype train just yet.
  2. Shifting all the software to work on ARM is going to take time. By the time Valve got everything running on ARM, AMD would have released something equal or better by then.
  3. Any word on pricing for those?
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[-] uis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Qc can go fuck themselves. Bunch of patent trolls.

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