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[-] Jamie@jamie.moe 144 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know storage is cheap, but nearly half a terabyte? I'm already giving any game the side eye if it takes more than 50G of space on a disk, let alone nearly 10x that.

[-] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 year ago

Just wait for the cracked version, they often reduce the size while they are at it.

[-] Jamie@jamie.moe 47 points 1 year ago
[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Until you spend the 48 hours of processing time needed to unpack it…

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[-] spacesweedkid27@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

storage is cheap

My guy, if you talk about slow ass HDDs then yes, but games have become so large that you have to have a SSD at least to have enough read speed for reasonable loading time for shaders, textures, etc.

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

SSDs are at a good price right now too, but that will probably soon change

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[-] Exusia@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Each main cod is 150gb now

Downloaded dmz for some friends on pc it's 68 so consoles probably see 75-80 if not more

This is BEFORE the fact that On console, each game demands its own space to unpack the entire thing when it tries to update. So on PS5 not only is the game 150gb, but you need 150 free space to update meaning the game is functionally a "ghost" 300gb (I uninstalled cold war over this shit, I don't have time or room on a console for that fucking nonsense)

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[-] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago

You'd think, thanks to removing HDDs, we'd no longer need file duplicates (because physics) and games get smaller again. But then you get unoptimized 4k textures and huge language packs for the 10000 hours of cutscenes, which you all have to always download. sigh

[-] ArcaneGadget@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

An order of magnitude more. It's nearly half a terabyte.

[-] Jamie@jamie.moe 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah whoops, brain said terabyte but fingers said gigabyte.

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[-] Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago

I FUCKING LOVE DEEP ROCK GALACTIC!

FOR SUCH A SMALL PRICE AND ONLY 5GB OF SPACE REQUIRED YOU GET INSANE AMOUNTS OF CONTENT AND FUN!

[-] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] tpyo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

😂 Is that from bash.org?

[-] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it is. I was going to link directly, but sadly it just spins until it times out :(

End of an era.

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[-] TheHolyChecksum@infosec.pub 15 points 1 year ago

WE'RE RICH!

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[-] Frozzie@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

No, I can't believe you. I don't want to believe you. A +400GB game, come on. Seriously.

[-] Exusia@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

On console: Mw2 150gb warzone2 115gb Mw2s "cod hq" for launching games 50gb (the only mandatory one) Mw3 seems to be about 190 looking at articles. (For campaign, zombies and warzone)

They're starting to obfuscate where each thing comes from now with the Cod HQ Launcher to play off the size of the games. As well as let you delete components like zombies and campaign to "save space" that they hoarded.

[-] Contend6248@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your consile is a whole CoD machine now, only by accident, not that someone intended to do so

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[-] tilcica@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

ARK survival evolved with all its DLCs is ~450 :')

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[-] JayJay@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile, I'm playing an indie game that's less than a gig and enjoying it. But I'm not much for fps games.

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[-] Daxtron2@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago

I don't get why modern AAA refuses to compress / distribute lower storage requirement assets.

[-] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago

It's hard and it particularly slows down the asset production process which is already a disproportionately slow and expensive part of development. Way easier to let the artists go apeshit exporting everything at 8k and a billion polygons because storage is cheap in a production environment.

Compression could help in theory, but then you'd have to decompress assets on the fly which takes a significant amount of processing power. The industry is trying to reduce the latency of getting assets into memory, compression would be moving the other way from that.

If you're conspiratorially minded then you might also conclude that it's to prevent people from having another major live service game installed on base model consoles, making you more likely to keep playing the one you've already installed. A kind of walled garden effect.

[-] Daxtron2@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

I mean I get that decompression can be expensive, but there's nothing stopping them from having a base version of the game with smaller lower quality assets and allowing players that want to download the huge assets do so with a free dlc. Many games have done this in the past.

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[-] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Requires effort. Also I'm thoroughly convinced hardware and software companies do it on purpose.

It's like the whole wearing Nike as your sponsor, the devs are paid to make it badly optimized so customers are encouraged to buy new tech.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's a fairly harmless conspiracy to believe, I'm in.

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[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Better hardware make gamedevs more lazy, remember when they managed to squeeze a game with 3d+music into a CD? (Lego island) now 100+GB for a below average and unfinished game, back then if you have mid even low end PC you can still enjoy most if not all the games (1990-2009) ever released now devs just know everyone have high end PC to play their 10 minutes games before you got board and play solitaire instead

[-] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

remember when they managed to squeeze a game with 3d+music into a CD? (Lego island)

Back then a CD had about as much storage as your entire hard drive. Also, lego island isn't really a AAA game. A AAA game from 1997 would be something like final fantasy 7, which came on two whole CDs. Drive capacity hit a boom around the 2000s and 2010s, and only recently have AAA games been catching up.

People always want to blame this shit on game developers being lazy, and they're not wrong that a lot of AAA games are bug ridden messes designed to please shareholders. But games are getting more and more complex, and these developers are being forced to work under strict time constraints.

That doesn't mean there isn't room to improve. Maybe offering different download options depending on your storage needs should become a common practice (iirc some games used to do that back when internet bandwidth was limited).

[-] pascal@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Final fantasy 7 was 3 CD on PlayStation and 4 CD-ROMs for the windows version.

I know, I was there.

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[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Games which needs a NASA computer and a half Google server to play it with more than 15 FPS are not necesarly better as some 15 years old games for Win XP, they only have somewhat better graphics.

Remembering old Games, like Black Messiah or Tomb Rider from 2013, which work at >30-50 FPS with a few Gigs HD and less than 4 Gigs RAM, apart of having very good graphics.

New games often also are badly optimized, needing way more min sys specs as needed for the quality they offer.

Someone remember the game kkrieger? A short 3D FPS in a single file with only 96 KB, that is art. It can still be downloaded (abandonware, Windows)

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

War Thunder coming in being an 11 years old game and still needing a NASA computer to run with graphics that look like the PS2 era.

[-] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

To be fair Old games that have had a shit ton of updates usually get bogged down overtime Especially if they weren't expecting anything large scale

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[-] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

They legitimately don't even try optimizing anymore.

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[-] EvokerKing@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

I swear ark survival evolved is a fucking zip bomb. There is no way that game is 350gb and has been for years. I had to install it on a second drive.

[-] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

I looked at some of the files in that game and experienced severe pain. Did you know the audio log objects take up like 7gb because the assets are copied in their entirety for each notebook page. So instead of sharing textures for the parts of the notebook each page has its own complete book material in unnecessary resolution. Also pretty sure the audio could be squished down more. Anyway that's just one small part of it. The maps are insanely big in terms of disk size.

[-] LucidLethargy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Studio Wildcard later identified SDE Inc. as its parent company. SDE Inc. has been described as an affiliate of Snail Games USA, the American branch of the Chinese video game company Snail Games.

Can't blame Western developers on this one.

[-] Exusia@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Because it's the only game your console will have with the shitass packing they do

[-] MTLion3@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

It’s getting 100% intentional. I find it ironic when CoD used to be known for being a fairly storage conscious game and now it’s this monstrosity we see before us. Glorified $70 DLC that takes up MORE space than the game it was made for

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why delete unused code and assets or optimize anything when your player base built their personality around your game? They will buy a 3rd SSD at the same time they buy the same game for the 4th time.

[-] Contend6248@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

What do you mean unused code, there are 3 complete unused games in there.

Download >100Gb = 5 maps, obviously

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

Of course, everyone knows you start development of a new game from the code base of the previous, but you aren't allowed to change or delete any of the old code, you need to copy paste the functions and append a version number. It's called version control.

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[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

410.13 GB? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

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[-] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Why in the ungodly flying fuck fallen from hooker heavens is this game half a terabyte??

[-] LucidLethargy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Ark: Survival Evolved is a Chinese developer. It's the worst offender so far as I know.

[-] DestroyMegacorps@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

that space required is bigger than my games collection and downloads and the family photos combined

[-] Abnorc@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

I thought this was a joke at first.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love The Dark Mod, it shows what it means to make a good Game, above it's OpenSource and a game for years.

Official Trailer https://yewtu.be/watch?v=brJqHnXmpgE

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