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[-] Hobo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Threads like this make me miss the sort by controversial. Oh well. If you have chores, or something else to do, maybe go do that instead of reading this thread. It's mostly shit slinging and people straw manning one another.

If anyone else came here to just talk about stuff, I'm willing to talk about how great cats and dogs are. Also open to hearing you out if you don't like cats or dogs, but I want you to know that I strongly disagree with your opinion.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

The idea that you only get to choose between either predatory Capitalism or corrupt Communism as your society is pretty pathetic. Truly we have some of the minds of all time in this thread.

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[-] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago

It is centralization that is killing the planet as the bigger the organization, the more power it has to control and become corrupt. Capitalism would work fine if it actually broke down organizations that got too big and also completely insulated themselves from bribes and influence. For some reason we have allowed corporations to run the show more and more which ironically is not only bad for the planet, but ultimately bad even for them in the long run. We have simply lost control and need to reign it in, but because humans are in the mix and can be bought or often coerced, there is little hope other than war resetting or AI taking over. My money is on AI taking over and while that scares many, humanity’s track record scares me more.

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Free Market Capitalism is based on the infinite human ability to create and innovate.

Communism refuses to acknowledge individuals and their skills, incentivastion and has no ability to allocate limited resources successfully.

[-] jwagner7813@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I like how people like you immediately default to communism as if there's absolutely no other option available...

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[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Capitalism is a cancer

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago
[-] sk_slice@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Not to be that guy, but animals of certain size are seemingly unaffected by cancer. I think Kurzkezadt (or however you spell it lol) did a video on why whales don't die from cancer.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oversimplification: Their cancers get so big their cancers get cancer and die before harming the animal

Unfortunately in real life the cancers form a cancer Monopoly and the immune system prefers to protect the cancer over normal cells

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[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Capitalism is telling people that the Earth is a finite system.

[-] ImpossibilityBox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

How is earth NOT a finite system?

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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Best way to deal with late stage cancer is radiation.

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[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Let me tell you my experience with communism centralized economy as the alternative.

  1. Planned economy = produce as much as possible, more you produce more you are rewarded. It doesn't matter if you make 100x more then it's needed than trow it away. Inefficiency doesn't matter.

  2. Ecology ? Foreign westerner propaganda. That there are no fish, animals, half of the plants spiecies disappeared is westerners fault. Emissions ? Nothing can stand in our plan.

  3. We produce more than anyone yet people's wellbeing is still behind west? That's not true, there are fascist to the west and it's just western propaganda. BTW if you mention it, you won't see outside for quite while.

Now let me tell you what happened after end of communism.

  1. Nature almost recovered because crazy amount of efforts put into it's protection despite it being expensive.

  2. If anyone produces more than people need, they ususally go bankrupt or at least are not rewarded for loss. Thus everyone tries to go as efficient as possible.

  3. Wellbeing went up 10fold.

I don't know about OP but capitalism seems kinda best option to me ATM

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