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[-] atro_city@fedia.io 106 points 1 year ago

Are... are they the Nazis now?

[-] HotTakesColdUrine@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

They're not the Nazis. They're the Nazis if they had absolute freedom to act in their region. They're Americans.

[-] HotTakesColdUrine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lots of downcopes from angry fascists and historically illiterate liberals

Whom among you can speak your disagreements? Don't just sulk.

[-] HotTakesColdUrine@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Fun fact: The Nazis were already writing wild west style stories for their children about the lands they planned to take from the Slavs.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

No, the Nazis wanted to send the Jews to Madagascar, not Ireland.

[-] Sharklaser@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago
[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Abbas quotes historian Raul Hilberg to support his allegations that fewer than one million Jews were killed.[13][14][15][16] However, Rafael Medoff of the David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies denied the assertion that "The historian and author, Raoul Hilberg, thinks that the figure does not exceed 890,000", and said this is "utterly false". He wrote that "Professor Hilberg, a distinguished historian and author of the classic study The Destruction of the European Jews, has never said or written any such thing."[12]

In the book Abbas raises doubts regarding the existence of the gas chambers, quoting Robert Faurisson, on the nonexistence of gas chambers.

So he doesn't deny that the Holocaust happened.....just that it was millions fewer deaths than reported, the Jews were a pivotal and willing part of the plan, and also there were no gas chambers. Cool.

[-] livus@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@NounsAndWords yikes what a piece of work. According to your link he also claims the gas chambers were just "crematoriums" which is a ludicrous assertion to anyone who has seen them. Structurally they would be useless as crematoriums.

Holocaust denial is a terrible thing to perpetrate.

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[-] livus@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

@Sharklaser ugh don't waste your time, he's a holocaust denier.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago

Point is that if this had happened anywhere outside Israel and the remark would be towards Israel, there would have been a huge outcry, and this guy would have been arrested, but now I am not even sure he will be removed from the government or returned silently after some time.

Justice for me but not for thee.

[-] Tarte@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

but now I am not even sure he will be removed from the government

He has now been removed from the government.

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think he was only suspended.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There have been Russian politicians defending using nukes in Ukraine, though not actually wanting to nuke a city of 2 million people.

Then again, the Russians are nowhere as racist towards Ukranians and actually want those in the occupied Ukranian territory to become Russians, whilst the Israelis want all Palestinians to die or to leave their land, not to integrate.

[-] livus@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago
[-] jonne@infosec.pub 60 points 1 year ago

Ireland is one of the few western countries that have criticised Israel's response to the Hamas attacks, so they're being punished now.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

They remember how it is to have your homeland occupied by a neighbouring nation that thinks you are an inferior people.

[-] livus@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

@jonne collective punishment is so evil.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago

But on brand for Israel. I guess when they say 'never again', they're not talking about genocide in general.

[-] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Never again to us is what you should interpret it as. A group taking steps to ensure that their near genocide can never be repeated doesn't burden them with a moral crusade to end all genocide.

[-] livus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Apollo good point.

Regardless of our histories I would hope we all have, if not a crusade, at least a strong moral desire to end genocide.

Not committing it is a good start.

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[-] filister@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

They got criticized by Michael D. Higgins. This guy is unreal. He is so charismatic and positive and though I don't know him personally he looks like an amazing human being.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Good thing far right isn't in power... wait

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

And nuke the hostages you pretend to care so much about?

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

And irradiate Israel's own foodbowl.

[-] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Benny: "Hostages?"

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"What are a few lifes lost when it's for the greater good?!"

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[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 1 year ago

i read this at first "far-right monster" and this also works

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Wow, imagine having voted for this bucket head.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 20 points 1 year ago

That's an insult to buckethead. He's a great musician.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

And this is what western leaders throw their "unconditional support" at..

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's crazy every country used the same term "unconditional support". 7 October was literally this moment

https://youtu.be/ksb3KD6DfSI?t=15s

But instead of American news agencies it was the leader of every country in the Western world.

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[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago
[-] evulhotdog@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I feel like it’s a temporary formality to avoid backlash. I’m sure this is one of Bibi’s top staff.

He’s there to test the waters.

[-] sarcasticsunrise@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

That's gotta be the most pro-genocide comment section I've ever seen. I know it's an Israeli publication, but goddamn there's some disturbing shit there

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

It's better than r/worldnews. But that's a very, very low bar.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's almost like there are paid bots there to defend whatever atrocities Israel is doing.

[-] FunkyButter@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

He has been censured by the Israeli government and stripped him of his ability to be in briefing meetings. Many in the Knesset are also now working to have him removed. The prime minister immediately released a statement that this was completely inappropriate and contrary to the way in which the IDF operates in accordance with the rules of armed conflicts.

[-] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

They don’t like people saying the quiet part loud.

[-] Sparlock@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

As far as nukes go you are right. Israel has long had a neither confirm nor deny stance when asked if they have nukes.

Everyone knows they do but they have never admitted to it.

This guy is getting shit for confirming that Israel does in fact have nukes.
Thats the real reason they are pissed at him.

Not for the idea itself.

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The Isreali Minisitry of Intelligence had literally drafted up an options plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza and deport everyone.

Let's not congratulate Isreal on drawing the line at nukes.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

...and would be completely self-destructive. This would be like New York City nuking Hoboken.

Or like uptown Manhattan nuking downtown Manhattan.

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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Is Gaza not considered desert? Should they move to the Negev?

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[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago

Stop talking if you don't know shit.

[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Prime Minister of reality suggest Israel should move to fuck all. So when someone suggest nukeing Israel and killing every last one, I don't wanna hear shit.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

...or hear me out, we agree that "nuking them and killing every last one" is something to always decry, regardless of who "them" is. The right response here is disgust, not "alright so antisemites get a pass".

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