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PSA: For those who want signal on secondary phone, use molly.
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I've used signal to buy molly
Added benefit of not needing to purchase a secondary device... just imagine one!
Oh, that Molly
Glad it wasn't just me...
Getcher tin ass over here, now. Please.
Compared to the other molly...
Molly should integrate Monero, the way signal has integrated their shitty Monero fork. Then I can finally buy molly on molly on Molly.
Element as a client with a Matrix server bridged to Signal works great, too. Centralizes your history on your own secure server, too.
More complex, though.
Also worth noting that communication between signal and matrix through most bridges requires the message to be decrypted and reencrypted, thereby breaking E2EE which kinda defeats the point.
Unless you’re running a bridge on a locked down home server on your own network, not sure it’s the most secure.
Very good point. For me its a private server and I run both the bridge and the matrix server inside the same docker network.
Oh nice! I just like to warn people because I saw bridges get popular with Beeper and people don’t always catch that security-for-ease compromise
I’m not trying rip on Beeper, by the way. I don’t use them and never have. They could be totally legitimate and good-faith actors, but the reencryption issue with bridges sets my tinfoil hat off!
Oh yea, I won't use Beeper. Self-hosted for me!
This is the solution I'm considering. Does it make sense if you have no actual contacts on Matrix? Do you think it would work on localhost instead of remote server? My use case is to get a single conversation view that includes Signal and Telegram contacts, but I don't need it on multiples devices, one desktop box is fine.
I use it unfederated. Its on my local network server, running in docker with bridges to Signal, IRC, and Discord, no Matrix contacts. Works great for me.
Useful, thanks. To be clear, you are using the official Matrix server Synapse as a Docker image, plus the Mautrix (sic) bridges also as Docker images?
Correct. It was not trivial to set up, since there is a lot of configuration to read through, but it wasn't hard, either.
Is there any real security-minimizing reason why it's not wanted by the official app to have multiple mobile devices linked to one Signal account? (I'm not even talking about a second phone with another SIM card, I just wanna use it on my tablet).
I would appreciate a simple/ELI5 style explanation if there is one, I don't work in IT.
Why is it not actually in F-droid? They want me to install a private repo? Has it been audited or is this a shill?
F-Droid doesn't want to host Molly because Signal doesn't want any forks on F-Droid. Seriously, that's the whole reason. Molly devs would be fine with it.
Molly is actually reproducible and has a fully FOSS version, so it is trustworthy.
Is that because Signal has trackers in it and F-Droid would remove them?
Wait, Signal dev forced f-droid admins not to upload Molly to its official repo? How?
No. The F-Droid team just doesn't want beef with the Signal guys.
Molly now merged the long-awaited UnifiedPush feature that Signal refuses. This means the notifications go thru my server instead of Google’s.
That said, I hate the entire concept of only allowing one Android device but also requiring an Android device with a SIM or you get no service. iOS is also supported but feeds into that duopoly, requirements to have a phone, & the freedom use whatever devices you want how you want.
I would prefer XMPP, but I have too many folks that refuse to move from Signal despite the conspiracies.
My too many folks are on Facebook messenger, Whatsapp, and telegram. 'and' not 'or'...
I got a chunk of friends & family to Signal a couple years back. Now I have some regrets due to the architectural decisions of the Signal ecosystem (and that battery drain + Electron app being huge). I wish I had had resources for an XMPP server as even a lazy person could run Snikket, but now they don’t want to remigrate after on a few years.
I'm in the same boat. To be frank, if I didn't have to use WhatsApp to talk to those in my family that remain in my motherland, I would be more than happy to get a simple dunbphone.
Yea, the mobile device requirement is so pointless and annoying! I have to use Signal with only a couple of people and had to use signal-cli, which is pretty annoying because it doesn't display history. Now I have it on Waydroid, but you should NOT have to do that.
Secondary phone, or any other additional android device (let's say a tablet).
Instructions unclear, now comfortable with pissing myself.
Does Molly require a phone number?
Yep
Every time I want to try molly the version is too far behind to restore backup of signal. Currently my signal is at 6.37.2 and latest Molly is at 6.35.3
Well I guess I don't have any more excuses not to use Signel.
I’ve been doing this and like it but, it’s been crashing a lot in the background and draining battery
this post was submitted on 02 Nov 2023
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