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[-] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 177 points 1 year ago

I see you like things that work. We've decided that we'll break it, and sell you the solution. We call it service.

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago

Them: this is pretty good right? And affordable too!

Me: yeah it's decent, don't touch anything

Them: we've put in ads

Me: what? I don't want ads, wtf

Them: bro, totally have you covered. No ads for $12.99 a month

Me: arr matey, don't worry yerself 🦜🏴‍☠️

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[-] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago

Hmm, sorry my associate was meaning "temporary solution", about every year you will need a new one. And we are so generous that if you buy two years in advance we will give you a 10% rebate and a big ole sticker with our brand in bold colors on it so you can give us free publicity.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 91 points 1 year ago

We beat scarcity. We're up to our eyeballs in labor-saving technology. We just left people in charge who cannot imagine using it to save labor.

[-] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago

It's about control. They don't want to lose that control. They don't deserve that control. We need to take control back.

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[-] ashe@lemmy.starless.one 23 points 1 year ago

Exactly, automation shouldn't kick some people out of jobs and leave others just as overworked as before, it should automate things that don't absolutely need humans and just decrease the workload of (currently) irreplaceable people so that more people can work as much as one did before and still get the same salary.

Hell, unemployment as a whole should not exist in the modern era. If there's "too few jobs", decrease working hours and increase wages accordingly so the total monthly/yearly/whatever pay is the same. And if there just physically aren't enough resources to accomodate so many people having decent salaries (which is absolutely not the case right now), then we should start talking about overpopulation.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

And if there just physically aren’t enough resources to accomodate so many people having decent salaries (which is absolutely not the case right now), then we should start talking about overpopulation.

Don't blame overpopulation, blame the C-levels who think they need to take home 500k+ a year salaries.

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[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 77 points 1 year ago

But have you considered the following:

Capitalism good because freedom and innovation.

Bet you feel dumb now.

[-] ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

I bet OP posted this using an iphone, I am very ismart vuvusela

/s

[-] jlow@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

No because freedom and innovation have nothing to do with capitalism? If anything the opposite?

[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

It's sarcasm friend, I know capitalism is basically the opposite of that.

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[-] craftyindividual@lemm.ee 65 points 1 year ago

The sight of Theresa May dance-walking to ABBA was an insult to the United Kingdom and Sweden :(

[-] dditty@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

It was also an insult to walking and dancing

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

The worst attack to British-Swedish relations and culture since the Beowulf movie

[-] 15liam20@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

The worst thing is that she's not even in the bottom three Prime Ministers any more.

[-] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago
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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“I’ve made a machine that does the labor of 10 men!”

“You’re going to still pay the other nine, right?”

You’re still going to pay the other nine, right?

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 year ago

So the ten men can all do a tenth of the labor now right?

Oh you're going to fire nine, cut the tenth's pay, and make him work even longer hours, and keep the vast majority of the profits for yourself, got it. That's fine too I guess...

[-] Rinox@feddit.it 13 points 1 year ago

“I’ve ~~made~~ bought a machine that does the labor of 10 men!”

“You’re going to still pay the other nine, right?”

"Why? I bought it to get more of the money to myself. Why would I pay for something and get nothing in return? Why would I just lose money for no reason?"

Seriously though, the dynamics are pretty clear, there's no investment without the expectation for extra profit (even for a state. Invest in a new railroad with the expectation of higher economic activity and therefore more taxes). Otherwise it's just charity

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I hope for your sake that when the factory workers can't afford to feed their kids and they drag you from your home and try to beat you to death in front of your family they find that argument compelling.

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[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

For more info on how automation works under capitalism, read chapters 15-16 of capital

Chapter 15: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch15.htm

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[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

1995: Welcome to the internet, check out these awesome stupid websites 2023: Here have an ad, after you subscribe, and accept cookies, and sign your life away to a terms of service written in alien legalese

[-] ultra@feddit.ro 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

I created a new email service that prevents spam and organized your email. If it works out and I become successful, I can imagine Google trying to buy it, and if I say no, all of a sudden Gmail starts having issues receiving mail from my service. Gmail and Exchange together share about 70% of the business email market, so they can destroy smaller competitors if they aren’t willing to sell. Yay capitalism!

[-] papabobolious@feddit.nu 19 points 1 year ago

I will never get tired of seeing these pictures

[-] itsnotits@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago
[-] fogetaboutit@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

Unregulated capitalism that made worse by the lack of QOL improvements by the govt is what made these new shitty electronics and tools profitable.

[-] HardNut@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I'd love for people to stop using capitalism as a catch-all term for every wrong in the world. This post illustrates a great reason why.

Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production. This means every private citizen has control over that which they own, and is free to sell it. In short, it's characterized by a free market, because everybody is free to sell whatever they want.

The reason people view this favorably is because if, for example, someone is selling some really useful farming tool, they're free to sell it at whatever price they want. But, someone else - who is also free to sell whatever they please - might figure out an alternative or their own way to assemble this tool. They can now sell it for a lower price to get more customers, thus forcing the original inventor to bring down the price as well. As a result, the farming world becomes more efficient thanks to innovation and market forces.

I feel like most people understand market forces, so I'm sorry if I'm not saying anything new yet, but it's crucial for seeing the flaw in the next part...

Modern medicine is not controlled by private entities, and they are not operating in a free market. The conditions that allow for market forces simply does not exist in Canada or America (probably Europe too but I know less about their system to get into details).

Take Johnson and Johnson for example. For one thing, they are not a private entity, they are incorporated and act in the collective interest of its shareholders. If capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production (which it is!) then immoral acts they take cannot be attributed to capitalism.

Now consider their business, aside from who owns and controls them. They have a medicine called Stelara, which has no generic alternative. They have an effective Monopoly on this Crohn's medicine, becauae no one else is allowed to sell medicine of the same chemical composition until the patent wears out and it's genericized. This patent is enforced by the state. So, the state enforces a ruling that prevents private business from selling medicine, which gives the corporation an effective Monopoly.

So we have a public entity, using state-enforced rules to prevent a private business from controlling the means of producing that medicine. That's completely anti-capitalistic from every angle I can think of

When a new medicine is invented, and a company marks up the price to high heaven, it's not because they're a capitalist and thus greedy, that simply shows anti-capitalist bias. It's because the state and the laws they enforce give them the opportunity to.

People can be greedy whether they're capitalist or not, so don't use it as an indicator for the flaw in capitalism because you'll just be wrong a lot of the time, because they're independent things

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

For one thing, they are not a private entity, they are incorporated and act in the collective interest of its shareholders.

Jesus fucking Christ, you think "private" means "individual."

You know less than nothing about this subject. Don't give lectures.

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

All this ignores that the free market naturally converges on monopolies and that these monopolies will pay off the government to continue being a monopoly in their respective industry or industries. If the government had less control then even better since they wouldn't have to pay off as many people.

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[-] Vegan_Joe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

We live in a world with limited resources. Late stage capitalism is characterized partly by a concentration of wealth. Anyone that has played the board game Monopoly understands the issues with the concentration of wealth, and access to concentrated wealth in a world of limited resources accords a few individuals almost unlimited power over the majority.

Limiting government regulations over fiscal entities just trades governmental tyranny for corporate tyranny over the working-class.

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[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

My favorite thing about this comment section is the ratio of comment score and comment length

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