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What the title says, and that's pretty much it. Do you or don't you?

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[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 year ago

I’ve been solely trusting windows defender for years now. Honestly, the main way I prevent myself from getting compromised is by sticking to trusted sources whenever possible. If the torrent is provided by someone who’s only ever uploaded one thing, there’s no way in hell I’m trusting it. Beyond that, it’s a balancing act.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

People (rightly) shit on Windows but Defender, despite constantly flagging my windows activator as malware, is the best antivirus that’s ever happened. If that fails (occasionally I have a family member who needs help) the amazing Malwarebytes takes care of it with one scan.

If that fails, whatever—reformat. Reformat never fails hahaha.

I haven’t got a virus once in my life, and I’m old. But like you, I stick to trusted sources. Even back on Kazaa, I made sure I’m not running an exe or bat and I was totally fine. The worst thing that happened to me was fucking with the mean clock in AOHELL TOOLZ too much and it put like a thousand text files title FUCK YOU in windows folder, circa windows XP. Luckily deleted them before my dad found out. Took FOREVER with a 400MHz Celeron.

At least it didn’t infect me with CIH, like it threatened (it told me the previous clock did that if you clicked it too much.)

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Just FYI, these days even a format can fail. Some things manage to get into your actual bios, or infect your drive firmware.

Extremely rare, but still very much possible.

[-] FierySpectre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Possible, but nobody is wasting such a good exploit on average consumer PC's.

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[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 year ago

Not using Windows kinda solves this problem. It also solves many other problems lol

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

Including the problem of having too many games to choose from 😉

[-] z00s@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

1996 wants its hot take back

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[-] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

I have about 900 games not counting emulation.

[-] SeekPie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

My philosphy is that if the game doesn't run on Linux, it isn't worth playing, because most games do work, and the ones that don't, are usually because the Anti-Virus the game uses. Which in EAC case, to enable playing on linux is just a button click (iirc).

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Cool. Have fun with that philosophy.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Lol, you're not wrong. There will always be idiots trying to gaslight here, though.

It's not evil to eat meat - - erm, I mean... Use windows! I don't even fucking like windows, but like... Yeah, I like to game and that's the easiest platform to game on.

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly this. I'm getting plenty of downvotes and people claiming I'm talking crap but when I tried the Linux gaming life, I couldn't even get Minecraft to work. Freaking Minecraft. And it only continued downhill from there. I make no claim that it's not possible to game on Linux, only that it's often such a chore that your entire planned gaming session can end up being a session of reading through forums filled with snide comments from pretentious Linux fanboys instead. I started as a console gamer and the fear of PC gaming was always that PC gaming can be a nightmarish tinker fest but Windows is much more click-and-play than Linux in my-and-most-people's experience.

[-] z00s@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's not Linux's fault you're retarded.

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Aaand there's the insult. Well done invalidating your already flimsy argument. Have a nice day

[-] z00s@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People will call you what you act like.

So you're gonna pretend you didnt reply to my other comment where I mentioned that Linux has steam and supports 98% of AAA titles so you can play the victim now?

Being too ignorant to figure out how to set up Minecraft and giving up after 2 minutes doesn't back up ypur shit talking about Linux.

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[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

I upload any suspicious files to virustotal.com.

[-] Saganaki@lemmy.one 30 points 1 year ago

I don’t (generally) sail the high seas, but I’m surprised that people don’t use SysInternals tooling on windows. Of note:

  • ProcExp - A way better process explorer and has a built-in VirusTotal scanner for all running processes. 100 times better than standard process explorer. This in combination with windows defender is nearly always enough.

  • AutoRuns - A tool to see what automatically runs on your system. Included image hijacks and such. This is for handling potential post-infection scenarios.

[-] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I set my VPN to Russia. Russian viruses are known to not infect their homeland, by design. They promised they wouldn’t, so you know it’s good. I then run the program, and sometimes my CPU starts heating up and slowing down my computer a bit. It happens anytime I turn on my computer now that I think about it. Computer is always running slow. I guess that’s the CPU checking if the viruses are Russian and then rejecting their requests. I can verify this because when I open Task Manager, I don’t see anything showing high CPU usage. It’s probably my imagination since the thing is doing what it’s supposed to be doing and stopping the viruses.

Only downside is I occasionally get a random command prompt pop up that disappears immediately before I can read it. Plus, my identity has been stolen several times and I’ve had to get ahold of Macrosoft Support (they built Windows so I trust them) and buy their premium $500 virus total scam defender package that I pay for monthly, but I don’t think those are related.

[-] willybe@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

This is the way.

AKA don't be this guy.

Don't trust executables on your computer. A Windows VM in a Linux host that you revert to a prior snapshot of you're really curious.

[-] thepiguy@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

I trust that windows viruses won't work on Linux. Plus I don't pirate software, unless I can crack it myself using binaries provided by the software. I just see pirating software as supporting a company I hate instead of supporting an open source project I like

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

I just see pirating software as supporting a company I hate instead of supporting an open source project I like

Yes!

Adobe owes a huge part of their success to piracy. It made it impossible for smaller companies to get a foothold back in the 90s because everyone just pirated Photoshop. It never would have become so entrenched (or grown so exploitative in licensing) if people had instead used cheaper/free alternatives.

[-] Acters@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, as always, spinning up a vm of Linux is just so easy and plenty of ways to recover from a bad moment with snapshots and zfs, or easily restart from a fresh premade image. Also, since you can run the vpn on the host, you can make the vpn connection not have to be limited by the vm performance/limited resources and you don't need to worry of there being a leak of information to the internet about your system or any identifiable info.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

…do you still trust Windows…

lol, not since 2004, and I’ve never looked back!

[-] Morgikan@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Q: How do you know that you don't have a virus without AV?

A: How do you know that you don't have a virus WITH AV?

[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Sometimes AVs are literally viruses.

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

I use linux. But yeah, windows defender is fine. Do rgular scans with it, keep it updated and you should be fine.

[-] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

I don't even have antivirus on my computer. I almost exclusively use private trackers and download music/shows/movies.

[-] backhdlp 12 points 1 year ago

My current solution to prevent getting a virus is to:

  1. Go to archlinux.org
  2. Download the ISO and follow the install instructions
  3. Check suspicious-looking files on virustotal

Takes a few hours to initially set everything up, but has the added benefit of not using a shit operating system.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Windows Defender has been really good. I haven’t had a 3rd party AV installed for nearly 10 years.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

Defender is sufficient when using common sense and being rightfully suspicious.
My toolbox also contains virustotal for suspicious executables/files.

If you actually want good protection, you'd need tiowatch at a solution that has behavior real time analysis. But that would also interfere with a lot of programs if they employ weird/shady programming (like trainers, mod menus etc.)

[-] TheOSINTguy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I sandbox stuff, using firejail or VM’s. coming from a cybersecurity perspective, AV’s are ok but they also aren’t stoping 0-days or malware that has been coded well by a good hacker.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

No and no. ~~I use arch btw~~

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Oh good, we all got together and we all wanted to ask you which Linux distro you preferred.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

It's essentially an obligation or responsibility at this point. I don't actually use arch though. I use a ublue based something image immutable whatever doodad Thinkpad with mods blah cocaine coreboot.

Anyways sail the seas on the penguin, don't worry about viruses. Within reason though as some configurations can allow windows software to fuck you up.

[-] Rabbit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

I pirate on Linux and don't use that device for anything else. And I don't pirate software or games where you are installing stuff.

[-] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Format c:/

I sail naked AF.

[-] Fraylor@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Balls to the wind my friend o7

[-] Kit 7 points 1 year ago

The best antivirus is common sense. Use trusted sources, read comments, take regular backups, and use a dedicated server instead of your everyday driver. You can rely on Windows Defender or run another OS like Linux or even MacOS.

If you must download a suspicious file, check out sandbox options like Windows Sandbox.

[-] chaosppe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I remember seeing a comparison between defenders and windows defender was on top. I see no reason to pay because of this. Either way I clean boot my pc every 4 months to keep it running very smooth.

[-] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I use Windows defender, MBAM, and Rkill.

Haven't had any issues yet, but I also choose my moorings well.

[-] CyberDine@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I use ESET NOD32. Such a reliable, low resource, and professional interface. Never had a problem

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty sure Windows Defender is fine now and not markedly worse than something like Bitdefender. I gave up on Bitdefender when they ended the free version with no advance warning shrug-outta-hecks

[-] coolmule0@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If I download a file from a questionable source: scan it (with clamscan) If I run an executable I don't trust: use a locked-down (with firejail)

No matter the antivirus, if you keep downloading and running questionable files, you run the risk of viruses. I would say that browsing patterns are more important than any antivirus.

[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Windows Defender is fine. The only anti-virus good enough at what it does to be worth buying instead of just using WD is Emisisoft, and that has its own set of issues.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I still end up using programs/services such as malwarebytes and virustotal on my desktop since defender isn't perfect. I have had a few instances where a game that I download outside of places like Steam had files that are actually clean and safe given false positives. Same with any key gens I've used.

With malwarebytes and virustotal, I've had less false positives in legally obtained games I know are clean. Moreso with malwarebytes since there's seemingly almost always one engine on VT saying the file is bad regardless of what it is.

I always find that having a 3rd party check a file is better than just having defender do all the work. What one engine might claim is bad might be safe to another.

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