Also, old evidence confirms it.
I guess whatever it takes to convince the skeptics. Though I figure nothing will convince them once they've made up their mind.
I don't like calling them "skeptics," because what they really are is super-gullible with regards to conspiracy theories.
"Science deniers" is a better description.
Step 1. Ask what someone thinks about vaccinations Step 2. Ask them what they think about evolution Step 3. Ask about climate change Step 4. Ask about what church they go to
You will learn so much of this overlaps. So much.
Cannot use logic to convince someone whose argument isn't logical in the first place
I've always preferred it phrased as "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into," but same energy.
Okay, if you say so, because I died six months after getting the first one like they said I would. Now I'm a magnetic 5G zombie.
What brand of vaccine did you get? I definitely get the 5G orders from George Soros and such (pretty standard stuff), and I was already dead inside before the jab, but I didn’t get any magnetism.
I got whichever one is most convenient to me winning the discussion about how vaccines are bad and give you 100 autisms.
How's your reception?
Being a zombie, I no longer need a phone. But my Bill Gates microchip ensures good reception for all around me whose brains I am not eating.
There was a 50/50 split in the US Senate when the vaccine came out. Every member of that group was vaccinated. They were the first members of the population to be vaccinated. If any of the ancient senators had died, the balance of power would have shifted in a huge way.
The sound you're hearing is goalposts being shuffled around.
Sometimes the goalposts are moved and merged with goalposts from other conspiracy theories.
When 5g wasn't the end of humanity it became the trigger for a zombie virus....hidden in the vaccine!
Wonder what third thing will become the new first domino to knock over the 5g and vaccine dominoes.
You mean ALL the republicans were lying this whole time? I am shocked! SHOCKED I say.
Guys the reason this study is important is because covid vaccines used revolutionary technology, they were the first to use mRNA based protein. If you remember we sequenced its genome within 40 days the making the vaccine was considerably easy. This is the main reason it took only 2 years for the vaccine to be made compared to years of development for other vaccines.
It also means that, with this new vaccine technology, we can develop vaccines faster and faster
We always knew/suspected this. But the ones that do the fearmongering around vaccines will not be interested in facts...
What's the point of this? The people who already believe the vaccine is safe already know it. Those that don't believe it's safe aren't gonna read this OR the report. They'll claim it's some sort of propaganda.
It's important simply to do just for the benefit of science going forward. We need to look at the long term effects of medicines. Usually we do that prior to release. It also protects you from the propoganda. Someone may throw out crazy statistics at you but you'll have this study in your back pocket so you can be like "yeah it's crazy" and dismiss don't debate.
And try not to get too downtrodden with humanity. Not everyone is a too far gone. Some are just a little lost.
The fact that "believe" is the operating word here is why medical science should be spread.
I don't know about you guys but I absolutely love the $5000 that is deposited onto my microchip every month! Helps so much with bills! Thanks Obama!
Where’s that guy that turned into a Newt?
What about their effectiveness?
I get that the first few versions might have stemmed the tide of the pandemic early on .. but how effective are the new doses now?
I'm not an antivacer but I do question the way the pandemic was handled and continues to be handled. I trust scientists, I trust the medical community, I trust our current level of knowledge and expertise ... I even trust our government to do the best they can with what they have ... I just don't trust seeing big corporate interests quietly influencing everything in the background.
I certainly don't trust anyone or anything that reprimands me or is threatened by my questions or concerns.
I would feel a whole lot better about all this if corporate and financial interests were completely disconnected from all our health care and pharmaceutical systems. Basically, anything that has to do with human bodily health should not be controlled or deeply influenced by monied interests.
Their efficacy has been heavily studied and proven.
versions might have stemmed the tide of the pandemic
This is straight-up weasel language. There is no (rational) question as to whether the vaccines reduced hospitalizations due to COVID-19, or contraction of COVID-19 in general.
corporate and financial interests were completely disconnected from all our health care and pharmaceutical systems
This is not realistic in the slightest. Reasearch requires resources and the time and effort of highly qualified people.
Thank you for perfectly demonstrating how the antivax argument will evolve.
Are Republicans still waiting for people who got the initial vaccine to drop dead overnight? lol.
I need to preface this by saying that I am in no way anti-vaccine, and this has nothing to do with politics.
But...
I got my last booster about 3 weeks ago, and I have been messed up ever since. Apparently there is something called Long Vax Syndrome that is currently being studied. Fortunately I don't have some of the worst symptoms, but the fatigue is so real. Normally when I would get a covid booster I would be exhausted for about 24 hours, but this is unrelenting. I've never been this tired in my life, and it's honestly a struggle. I am really hoping something comes of the research and they figure something out because I don't know how long I can sustain this.
What a surprise! who could have seen this coming!
I can almost hear all the scientists groan.
If this is trying to convince skeptics, it'll do nothing. They'll go back to Nancy on Facebook and exclaim how they're putting 5G crystal-infused microchips into your body to turn you into a sky person. Literally nothing will convince the antivax.
Totally not true, there’s …. Stuff. Dammit, the only thing I came up with to annoy the person giving me the shot was a one liner about improved 5G reception. And I used it twice: so cringey. Where are all the conspiracy nuts when you need them?
Genuinely impressive how a vaccine made under the conditions and time constraints COVID faced is so effective.
That's because most of the groundwork in developing mrna vaccines had already been done for years and years. This wasn't "how do we invent a vaccine for covid?", this was "how do we adapt this proven, well-understood vaccine tech so that it works for covid just like it does for the ebola virus that we originally developed it for?"
What's even the point? More evidence isn't going to change anyone's mind.
This is just what goes on in medicine science when things are operating properly. Test, collect data, run experiments, do it again, do it again, then, after the short term use has been proven safe 30 different times, by 100's of research groups, you start researching the long term affects of it.
Anyone know where I can access the report mentioned? It doesn't seem to be linked anywhere in the article, nor cited by a searchable name...
Nvm, found it on the website for Public Health Ontario
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
