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New evidence confirms COVID-19 vaccines are overwhelmingly safe::More than 38 million COVID-19 vaccine doses have been administered in Ontario as of Oct. 8, with 23,002 reports of adverse reactions, an incidence of 0.06 per cent, Public Health Ontario says

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[-] JdW@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago

We always knew/suspected this. But the ones that do the fearmongering around vaccines will not be interested in facts...

[-] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 12 points 2 years ago

Not just that, but a lot of them see it as resistance to authority, even if they don't think there's a serious risk. This is inevitably what happens when things get forced and mandates get imposed. It naturally causes people to push back against it.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No, this is what happens in a rigidly individualistic western countries like the USA, UK, and Australia where people act like children screaming "you can't tell me what to do!", even when it's just the health department asking you to stay safe.

There were no forced vaccine mandates in the USA, so I don't really know what you're talking about when you say that this was inevitable. Right-wingers just pretended that there was a mandate so that they could do performative resistance, but you might have noticed, there was no government-imposed punishment for refusing, just the natural consequence of drowning in your own sputum in the ICU.

[-] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 4 points 2 years ago

Various employers imposed mandates, so there were mandates.

When neo-fascists try to impose things, that naturally creates resentment. All the people calling for mandates are the reason the reason why there was resistance.

[-] jmanes@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Do you also think laws requiring you to wear a seatbelt is "neo-fascist?"

[-] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 1 points 2 years ago

Not if there are multiple people in the car. As soon as there's another person in the car, it's not victimless.

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Vaccines work when everyone uses them. There are a small number of people who cannot be vaccinated due to medical reasons. They rely on others being vaccinated. So when a lot of people who can take the vaccine refuse to do so, they put these people in danger.

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Funny that of all things that US employers demand and impose, it's vaccinations where you draw the line.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

"Fascism is when employers tell their employees what to do."

[-] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 2 points 2 years ago

r/AntiWork in a nutshell

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

You've got yourself very turned around: the only reason there were talk of mandates is because we knew that, without them, people wouldn't get the vaccine. Fear of vaccines long predates any mandates. It basically started the minute the first vaccine was developed.

I'm not saying no one refused it because of talk of mandates, but the overall trend would be that without a strong incentive, some people would not get it, whether it just because of laziness, procrastination, or simply being on the fence about it.

[-] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 1 points 2 years ago

Mandates increased the number of people who didn't get it. There's no reason for mandates.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

Do you have anything to back this up or is it just how you feel?

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Do you have anything to back this up

Narrator: They didn't.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't normally be the guy to jump straight to the conclusion that you are a Russian propagandist, but look at that instance name. Not even subtle.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah, so much of it is just contrarianism. These people think that if they blindly reject everything that comes from an official source that they are substantially different than the people who blindly accept everything that comes from an official source.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Not just different, but better.

[-] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 3 points 2 years ago

Experts have lied repeatedly and trust in them is at an all time low. If it wasn't for the talk of mandates, more people would have got the vaccine. Pushback is a natural consequence of trying to force things.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago

Experts have lied repeatedly

A completely vague statement - which is almost certainly untrue or a gross misrepresentation of reality - that basically justifies believing whatever you want. I've seen this plenty throughout my life, but it's become especially popular since the start of the pandemic.

[-] raynethackery@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Projection. I lie repeatedly so everyone else must also lie repeatedly.

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