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Fucking heroes 👏

Microsoft Office is a parasite holding people hostage with extortionate subscription fees

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[-] sensation@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 minutes ago

In case a dev of LibreOffice reads this: I love you. Heroes <3

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Microsoft gonna have this picture in the wall and start crossing them off one by one

[-] raef@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Put the women in the front!
just being a little snarky. I appreciate all they do.

[-] BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone 4 points 2 hours ago

The greatest people I'm on W10 LtSC IoT with Libre Office, Firefox and VLC.

I'm eager to move to Linux but I've been with windows since 1993. I don't know how to move on.

I know there's Linux distros that are perfect for me out there and I want to leave Windows because regular W10 and W11 are trash.

I just need a nice Linux distro where I don't have to spend any time coding to install software.. I don't want to type in code to install things but I also don't want to move to Windows 11.

[-] T4V0@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

I just need a nice Linux distro where I don't have to spend any time coding to install software.. I don't want to type in code to install things but I also don't want to move to Windows 11.

Most modern Linux have optional GUIs for package management — software packaged by your distro mantainers — often integrated with flathub — a website for downloading and installing distro agnostic software, with limited access to system resources, like android’s permissions — and system management.

Generally we prefer to type in "code" as it is very straightforward and faster as well. For Windows, you go to system settings, install updates, wait a while, and reboot to install updates. This only updates Windows itself and some of their software, i.e. drivers, office, etc.

For linux it depends on the distro, but for Debian/Ubuntu based ones it goes something like this in a terminal emulator:

sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
flatpak update

Each line is executed independently, and roughly translating them in order of appearance:

  • sudo means do the following command with administrator privileges;
  • apt is Debian’s package manager tool;
  • apt update is an apt command that checks if there any new packages for either your system or installed software;
  • apt upgrade is also an apt command to install these latest packages;
  • flatpak is a tool to manage distro agnostic packages, commonly from flathub;
  • flatpak update checks and install new versions of the installed packages.

While the explanation is a bit long winded, these commands runs in seconds to a few minutes, depending on how long it has been since the last update. It might be necessary to reboot afterwards, specially if you have nvidia graphics, for example. But it updates all the software you obtained through them, without the song and dance of going to each vendor’s website or third parties. They vetoed all of them in your stead.

Mind you, while flatpak apps from flathub may have unstrusted software — which also have a limited access to the system — your distro has higher concern for safety than Windows by not making you download an random executable from a website.

[-] sensation@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 minutes ago

I just ran flatpak update for the first time. Thank you. (I had been using KDE Discover's updater.)

I recommend using Debian with KDE. :)

[-] kalkulat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Consider joining the tens of thousands of people who've moved on to Linux Mint Cinnamon in the past year.

I've used Mint since for a dozen years, and have -never- learned to compile a program. Mint's software manager will display the thousands of wares (by category) and install (and even start) them for you. The updates manager makes sure you get all you need ... when you feel like it.

P.S. I built my first computer in 1978. I use Linux by choice.

[-] Kjell@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

+1 on Linux Mint. Some people don't like that it is based on Ubuntu, but I think Mint is a good repo for someone moving from Windows. I help my parents to install Mint on their computer when Windows 10 reached EoL and they have not complained yet.

I would also like to add that it is a good idea to create a live boot in order to check that speakers, wifi, printers etc. works on your computer before installing it. Note that it will be slower since it is running from the USB stick.

[-] kalkulat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh yeah, a live boot from a USB is a very good test ... so they can try it out before making the leap. Better still, install it on a second partition ... then they still have access to their Win install.

[-] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Kubuntu may be a good distro for you. Linux Mint is also great.

Once you download and write the image to a USB drive, you can live boot into the drive without modifying your existing Windows installation. So you can test drive it without committing to switch to it.

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago

i ditched MS Office decades ago, before that I had used Lotus 1-2-3 and WordPerfect under DOS, went to Open Office and been on Libre office for years now. Thank you team

[-] 33550336@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Fortunately, their work is appreciated and used around the world. I like libreoffice very much, there is no looking back.

[-] oyzmo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

LibreOffice is the best! It just does what it is suppose to :)

[-] knomie@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

It is amazing to see a picture of these amazing people.

Is there any more information on when, where, why this picture was taken? Community meeting of developers/contributors probably? (If the people are ok with sharing that information)

[-] hash@slrpnk.net 22 points 11 hours ago

Building alternatives can feel like hurling pebbles at goliath, but it is truly a substastial contribution that hacks at the roots of billionaire control.

[-] GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, but David killed Goliath with a slingshot and a pebble

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 points 9 hours ago

Been using it for years. I don't do much with it, mostly using Calc, but it's great to have.

[-] auzy1@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

These are the people who communities like the LinuxSucks community attacks

[-] hansolo@lemmy.today 44 points 13 hours ago

Bless these people. Donate to LibreOffice if you use it and can afford it.

[-] green_link@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

i just wish they would implement a proper dark mode icons. not this high contrast crap

[-] GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, Same here honestly

[-] GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

Based gigachads

[-] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 79 points 16 hours ago

I can vouch for libre office. It's so much better than it was I now don't miss PowerPoint or word, and I really don't miss Microsoft

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 26 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

As some one who lives in Excel, IMHO Calc is 80% of the way there - and that’s no easy task! Excel has been the primary tool of capitalism for decades now, it’s one of the most polished pieces of software ever (and yes I’m aware how annoying it can be sometimes lol)

[-] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Controversial take: that missing 20% is a deal breaker for my use cases. I'm still in awe of the volunteer developer network, but Calc has fallen short of being an Excel replacement for me.

[-] f1error@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

I feel you, but I always find a way to make Calc work. I might spend a day or five searching for an answer. But there is always a way.

[-] BigTurkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 13 hours ago

Real life heros and model citizens of the world I wanna live in.

[-] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 8 points 10 hours ago

They are my heroes!

[-] Catoblepas 53 points 15 hours ago

Thank you for making it possible to do my school work Windows-free, LibreOffice team 🙏

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

I like and trust them more than alternatives (and keep their software available on my systems) though I'm using OnlyOffice a little more, at least for my presentations. Technically MS PowerPoint has more features than both, but I don't really need them (and they fuck with compatibility and are resource heavy). Plus, my Linux made presentations load properly on my students' Macs PCs and ipads, as well as in browser on the LMS (Canvas).

My feelings are, LibreOffice feels more like MS Office circa mid aughts, while OnlyOffice is more like modern MS Office and Google Suite, at least as far as the ribbon menu and default themes are concerned. I'm sure I can get LibreOffice to theme just as well but the default aren't... great.

[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

OnlyOffice is sketchy.

If you are doing presentations I would highly recommend trying none of the above.

I only use markdown or one of the presentation ready things like marp or reveal.js.

So much better and it's just plain text or html.

You can manage presentations in git, find and replace just works, they look miles better and you can even do some neat tricks like having your students connect to a webpage and follow along on their own computers.

PowerPoint was and is a bad idea for presentations.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Well... I don't really have that option because of slide sharing and whatnot, the system requires pptx format, even for professors. Technically I'm not even supposed to use non-MS software, lol.

But I think you're right. It's getting to be a headache messing with OnlyOffice w/ master slides. Libre might end up being my only option simply because of its ability to work within my pptx centric work.

[-] T4V0@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

While it’s still early days, you might want to take a look at EuroOffice, a OnlyOffice fork to avoid their sketchiness and supported by a great number of organizations.

[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

That's crazy that it's because of slide sharing, when doing it this way makes it so much easier to share!

Doesn't suprise me though, they always make the worst decisions.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Hehe, yes, that and one drive shoved down our throats because they pay for it all. I can't even get them to approve my Linux system to receive school email, have to do browser Outlook.

I'll still consider these options if I'm ever back in doing academic research and going to conferences, though.

[-] PenguinVII@lemmy.zip 42 points 15 hours ago

Wow I've never heard about LibreOffice before. This is great!

[-] NCSK@fedia.io 54 points 14 hours ago

I'm honestly surprised you use lemmy, but never heard about LibreOffice. There are so many cool softwares that are probably waiting for you to find them out.

[-] PenguinVII@lemmy.zip 27 points 13 hours ago

Oh if that helps, I joined Lemmy just recently about 2 weeks ago. I'm surely finding interesting and unique things on here!

[-] BeatL@pawb.social 13 points 12 hours ago

welcome and it is good news that lemmy cather to everyone :)

If you want to find alternative tools i can recommend using https://alternativeto.net/ it recommend tools that are alternative to other.

you can sort by paid, free, proprietary, etc

As some tools can be quite ubiquitous and/or you can have different use case, please check different alternatives.

Whatever your need, you will be surprised how many tools exist.

a nice one is firefox instead of chrome,edge, opera or safari. It is open source, do not collect your data, is light on ressource and if you add the extension "ublock origin" you have a truly ad free web browsing experience. (adblocker do not work anymore on browser and adblock have been bought by a marketing giant)

[-] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 12 hours ago
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[-] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Every day I thank the stars that I've never had to use office software. I used Abiword for writing papers in school and you don't need Excel when you have APL instead. I've never once needed anything more than a text editor since then.

[-] beepbeeplettuce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

Forgive my ignorance...what's APL?

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

It's A Programming Language focused mainly on tables of numbers. It's like a spreadsheet but without the spreadsheet (and much slicker syntax).

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 25 points 15 hours ago

Never had a bad experience with this software

[-] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

My only bad experience with this software is users moaning that it's not excel and word. And users using word/writer as a layout tool, without using the layout tools in that software: tab tab tab space space space space align left: why does nothing line up 😔

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