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t has, almost certainly, happened to you. You have a conversation in person, you mention something specific, and minutes later, there’s an ad for it on your phone. For the past decade, most of us have come to the same conclusion: Our phones must be listening. But are they, really? I wanted to dig into the “phone listening” theory — where it came from, what the official research says, and what’s actually happening every time you load an ad on the internet. What I learned is that creepy ads are just the tip of the iceberg, powered by a system auctioning off our location, identity, and behaviors to countless companies vying for our attention… and others looking for something else.

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[-] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago

I don't know about phone ads, but I've known for a fact that Google knows a lot more about everybody than anybody has any inkling since some time in 2010. And here's how I know:

Back then I worked as a gun designer for a small luxury hunting rifle manufacturer. One day my boss tasked me to find "innovative materials" to make lighter gun mechanisms.

So I Googled around - since Google was so good at finding shit back in the days - and found this really interesting, really obscure, niche polymer for very specialized, low-friction applications. I had never heard of it, and apparently nobody I knew who knew a lot more than I did about polymers had heard of it either. But... it was 4pm so I left it at that and went back home.

The next morning at work, I opened my inbox, and wouldn't you know it: I had an email offer from some Chinese supplier to sell me that particular plastic by the ton.

Now here's the thing: I've been paranoid about my privacy since 1999. So in 2010, I was already taking extreme measures to block trackers, browse anonymously, delete cookies at least every day, never use my real name online for any reason whatsoever and only use throwaway accounts. And there was no way in hell someone offering me this particular plastic was a coincidence.

So somehow, Google linked my search done on a Linux machine running Firefox and whatever privacy add-ons existed back then, from an IP shared by all the machines in that small gun shop, to my professional email addy.

To this day, I have no idea how they did it. Especially back then when personal data wasn't yet flying around at high speed all the time, and it was easier to figure out who or what leaked what when and where. That's when it fully dawned on me what a nefarious, dangerous outfit Google was.

I must say, they have not disappointed for the next 16 years...

[-] Ghoelian@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago

Now here’s the thing: I’ve been paranoid about my privacy since 1999. So in 2010, I was already taking extreme measures to block trackers, browse anonymously, delete cookies at least every day, never use my real name online for any reason whatsoever and only use throwaway accounts.

Yet you still used google? There are a lot of ways to fingerprint a browser, and it wouldn't surprise me if some systen information was still freely available to websites in 2010. With just an ip and websites you visit often (which they do if you search through google of course) they can already do a lot.

[-] Aquila@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I had never heard of it, and apparently nobody I knew who knew a lot more than I did about polymers had heard of it either.

Especially back then when personal data wasn't yet flying around at high speed all the time, and it was easier to figure out who or what leaked what when and where.

Guessing the leak was from one of these people. Reminds me of the Mr Robot episode when theyre trying to break into steel mountain looking at a photo of the front door trying to figure out how to break into steel mountain. The main character remarks theres 5-6 vulnerabilities right there referring to the people entering and leaving the building

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