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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz to c/music@lemmy.world

I wanted to explore this, it seems like it mostly happens in classic rock. I like it because it's like the group delivering a thesis statement for the content of their music or their intended commercial trajectory.

I think it works even better when it's done by a band later into their career, like they're reflecting on the culmination of their work. Can people link me examples? I'd love to see if this has happened more outside of the rock genre

Off the top of my head:

Bad Company (debut album)

Black Sabbath (debut album)

Damn Yankees (debut album)

Blue Öyster Cult (11th album)

Dimmu Borgir (8th album, black metal)

Run the Jewels (debut album, rap)

Eyes of Noctom (debut album, black metal, fun fact: this is Nicholas Cage's son)

Highwaymen (debut album, country)

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[-] scytale@piefed.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

This one is the other way around: Planet X. When Derek Sherinian was kicked out of Dream Theater, he wanted to create something that would be better, so he released an album titled Planet X together with Tony Macalpine and Virgil Dontai. It was so good and built up a fanbase that they then formed a new band called Planet X and released 3 albums in the next couple of years.

[-] ThePunnyMan@lemmy.zip 3 points 15 hours ago

This one always makes me laugh. Living in a Box on the album "Living in a Box" by the band "Living in a Box"

[-] eupraxia 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

glass beach - glass beach (from "the first glass beach album")

from the chorus:

In here, you'll be okay
And when your heart breaks, I'll be beside you
So please stay here with me
Breathe in like waves on a glass beach

fuckin incredible song, album, and band. glass beach has sadly disbanded but their vocalist has a new project called "you are an angel" with another self titled song that I can recommend too.

[-] _NetNomad@fedia.io 5 points 20 hours ago

ABBA maddeningly released an album called ABBA and an album called ABBA: The Album

[-] Maestro@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago

Iron Maiden playing the song "Iron Maiden" from yheir album called "Iron Maiden": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufp75XlTp-Q

[-] Kryptkravler@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

Electric Wizard by Electric Wizard is easily one of my favorite songs by one of my favorite bands. I especially love when the wizard speaks in this song

[-] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago

Seethed has one. It's a b-side that was eventually released on the album "Curiosities, Rarities, and Paraiahs."

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Iron Maiden" by Iron Maiden off their debut album called "Iron Maiden".

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

Ooh, that should have been obvious. Iron Maiden was always a bit of a blind spot for me but that song inspired something:

[-] hairyfeet@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 hours ago

Alphabeat - Alphabeat (2006)

[-] chicagohuman@lemmy.zip 3 points 21 hours ago

Belle and Sebastian had a song called Belle and Sebastian

[-] Menschlicher_Fehler@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago

Living in a Box, by Living in a Box from their debut album Living in a Box.

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Holy HELL i loved that. New fixation unlocked.

[-] Menschlicher_Fehler@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

It is a catchy one.

[-] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Then there's the band Flowers that released an album called Icehouse, and halfway through the release changed their name to Icehouse - to not be confused with a Scottish band called Flowers - so the early albums are called "Icehouse by Flowers" and the later ones "Flowers by Icehouse".

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

You missed the fact the last track on the Icehouse album is also called Icehouse.

The international release is icehouse by icehouse containing the track icehouse

[-] datavoid@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

From my angsty youth, Billy Talent - Billy Talent

[-] thousandyardstare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Artist: Low Roar

Album: Low Roar

Song: Low Roar

[-] SandLight@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

They Might Be Giants have a self titled track (but not album) included in their third album Flood

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[-] eleijeep@piefed.social 2 points 22 hours ago

Beethoven's 9th Symphony by Beethoven

[-] Ertain@feddit.online 3 points 1 day ago

I heard one yesterday from the band Hammerfall (I'm sure you can guess the name of the song).

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

No way! I guess I gotta go see what they do now. They only had two albums when I first heard them

[-] Cardigans@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Slave to the System by Slave to the System on their album Slave to the System.

I thought this was the tackiest shit ever when I was younger, but looking it up now I guess they were a super group so the very on-the-nose-ness of it feels a little bit less bad. I have no idea how I came across the album but I listened to loads of random music.

[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

listened to loads of random music

The best way to find new music.

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

I love this though! Tackiness in music is great, it's what we have headphones for.

[-] Fermiverse@gehirneimer.de 3 points 1 day ago

Cloven Hoof, with Album Cloven Hoof and first track Cloven Hoof.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Ramones covered R.A.M.O.N.E.S. by Motörhead on their final album, Adios Amigos.

Wilco (the song) appears on Wilco (the album), which is the seventh studio album of Wilco (the band).

[-] nullPointer@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

green day

motorhead

slip knot

rammstein

canned heat

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Oh hell yeah, I wish I had known about that Rammstein one long ago. I need to catch up with their music. The video was adequately sexually charged and disconcerting for what I would expect from them

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

adequately sexually charged and disconcerting for what I would expect from them

Sadly this seems to apply in the worst possible way to Till Lindemann on a private level as well. 🤮

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Indeed. One of my favorite people said that there's something more deeply wounding about sex crimes when they're perpetrated by people from countercultural and alternative art movements. Like a huge thesis of counterculture is that there should be nothing to fear in the darker aspects of the human experience. But then a guy like Till or Manson or Victor Salva will fuck it all up. They reinforce the cultural narratives about fear of the other, social hierarchy, and the invincibility that their fame earns them.

Those ones really fuck me up

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

Yup.

Another issue I have is when artists make art about the fucked up sides of human nature, and you buy into it and think they are brilliant for portraying it. And then you find out that nope, they're just giant creeps who tell on themselves. It makes it pretty much impossible for me to enjoy their art after.

I believe, in some degree, in separating the art from the artist. I can listen to the Beatles even though Lennon was a wife beater, though the line "I used to be cruel to my woman I'd beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loves" hits a bit harder than it should. But when the art mirrors the artist it becomes impossible. The jokes of Louis CK would have aged a lot better had they not all been about behaving like a total creep. With Rammstein I can't help but feel that the trademark uneasiness is just Till telling on himself, and I feel like a gullible idiot for using to enjoy it without realizing it wasn't an act. Like the joke was on me.

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

That's EXACTLY what it is. Like, oh you weren't portraying anything artistically this is just how you live.

Same, I like to think I can and prefer to appreciate art sperate from the artist's private lives. But that's the kind of transgression that rewrites and recontextualizes the work. Also that Louis CK shit is wild because if you listen to him talk about it afterwards he still doesn't really understand what went wrong with what he was doing. Now that I'm thinking about it this might have been why I never checked in on Rammstein after the last time I heard they were still making music

[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Self-titled albums were a big thing in the sixties, when the record industry was still starting properly. David Bowie's first two albums are both named ‘David Bowie’. With some artists, it's a bit difficult to track all this crap, since vinyls were basically issued whenever anyone was at the factory and not when the artist had a particularly artistic vision.

Weezer had a gag about it, putting out seven albums named ‘Weezer’ over thirty years, the latest one upcoming in a week.

Songs are different, of course, but the reason you see them in classic rock is probably because those dudes are old.

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[-] PrimeErective@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago

Angel Witch - Angel Witch - Angel Witch

[-] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Big in Japan were not from Japan but they were big in Japan after they released their single "Big in Japan".

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[-] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Shadows of Paradise

[-] Hexanimo@kbin.earth 2 points 1 day ago

This doesn't fit the prompt in a technical sense, but does so thematically:

The band originally known as Imagica changed their name due to overlap with another artist. For one week they went by Nothing and Nowhere (shared with their first album and a track that would appear on a later album) before settling on their current name, The Birthday Massacre. The Birthday Massacre was the original third track of the Nothing and Nowhere LP, but was renamed Happy Birthday during the band's final name change.

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[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

This is a vibe. I love how he's sensually whispering Wizaaard throughout the track

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[-] SayJess 2 points 1 day ago

Crash Land - Crash Land is one of my fave songs, which has been in my rotation for quite a long time. Originally one of the remixes made its way into a playlist of mine. When I checked out the original, I was hooked.

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can see why you like that, I really like this Rootkit one. As a serial job-hopper with autism this is really speaking to me. I am a fucking alien

[-] dvlsg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
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