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[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Democratic party doesn't care about the country. They are all just sitting there raking in a paycheque and getting rich off insider trading all while someone else gets blamed for the bad shit happening. This is their perfect scenario. Why would the actually work and bring attention to themselves when they can just ride the wave for four years and get rich.

[-] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

They literally had public disclosures that this was the plan after Harris lost

[-] jabeez@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Heh, you and me both buddy, mystery of the fucking century, either epic levels of incompetence, or collusion. Haven't decided which is more likely yet, maybe bits of both.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

Trump helps rich people. Establishment Dems are either owned by, or terrified of rich people.

That's it. Simple.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

hakeeem , schumer are wealthy asf from various industries that donated to him.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You know what the difference is between a million and a billion dollars? About a billion dollars. The kind of rich people I'm talking about make someone like Schumer look like an absolute peasant.

[-] culprit@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 days ago

The duopoly of 2 pro-capitalist parties must end.

The United States effectively has a one-party system, the business party, with two factions, Republicans and Democrats.

  • Noam Chomsky

Yes, we have one party here. But so does America. Except, with typical extravagance, they have two of them!

  • Julius Nyerere (first Prime Minister and President of Tanzania)

I think Americans are good, but America will be taken over and destroyed from the inside by the Zionist lobby. The Americans do not see this. They are getting decadent. Zionists will use this to destroy them.

  • Muammar al-Gaddafi
[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

During the general election: Easy there friend, I agree with you but now is not the time. Do party building during midterms.

During midterms: Oh this is the time for a united front. Simply promote third parties between elections.

Between elections: You're taking momentum away from smaller local challengers right now.

[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

In what ways has the united states shifted right over the last 20 years? Tbh I've never understood this narrative. To me it's very very obvious that the united states has shifted left steadily for my whole life. Short term there have been rightward shifts, but the overall trend is definitely left.

[-] culprit@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

It is very common for privileged liberals to barely notice the rise of fascism. This has been the problem for quite a while.

[-] 5318008@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You probably live in a blue area. (Most people live in a blue area.) The actual situation is that we've polarized. People around you, in the blue area, have moved left. People elsewhere, in the red areas, have moved right.

Pew Research for some graphics.

In certain ways, this has been a victory for civil liberties. Gay people from small towns can move to a place where they might have entire neighborhoods of likeminded people. Trans people from small towns can move to a place where they won't be shot on sight. Hell, someone in NYC who suddenly finds Jesus can go to a smaller town where no one will make fun of them for proselytizing AND they can hang out with likeminded people AND they get cheaper rent.

But it's also more dangerous than it has ever been to be an immigrant. Wealth inequality has been rising. Increases in wages has been vastly outpaced by increases in the cost of housing and healthcare, and combined with inflation, we're making more units of USD, sure, but we aren't able to sustain any better a quality of life. Corporate Taxes were increased for small companies, and cut for large companies.

Depending on whether you're more focused on the kinds of people living around you, or on the wide-reaching systemic changes that have been taking place, you're going to notice different things. The really really important stuff that has shifted to the right is kind of boring, so you wouldn't have seen much reporting on it.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

The ratchet effect exists because leftists would rather bitch every general election and allow Republicans to be elected, while simultaneously not participating in the primaries.

The fascists knew the primaries were the secret, and their voters are generally loyal in November. Every member of the GOP that opposes Trump is removed in the primaries, and the party moves further right.

[-] Cyanova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

The ratchet effect works because vast swathes of people can't perceive of any way to affect change beyond voting, thus creating a single (recurring) major choke point for going through the 'correct' channels.

If all you do is vote, you can't complain.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Vast swathes of people don’t vote though.

[-] Cyanova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

That's fine, there are a great deal of more impactful and meaningful things that people can do instead of voting. My point is that if someone's sole contribution is voting, they haven't actually done anything.

[-] culprit@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

The problem is there is no actual choice for progressive leftism on offer. This is the whole issue. The Dems are just Capitalism with cute decorations vs the depraved capitalism of Republicans. If there were actual parties that outside this framework, they can be very successful. That's why DSA is winning. They are at least acting like another option, whether or not they will significantly change things is to be seen, but they are not centrists like most Dems try to be.

The PSL is on the right track. A disciplined socialist party will get the power to change things, or be an object lesson in the necessity of revolutionary organizing to use other means of change.

[-] culprit@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Obamacare was copied directly from the Republicans, originally called Romneycare. The chance for M4A was completely squandered by the Dems at the time. Have some damn object permance like an actual adult.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Obamacare was broken because the Dems had a filibuster-proof majority in the senate for like 1 month at in the 2009 holidays. By the time Al Franken got to take his seat, Kennedy had stopped showing up for work, then he died, then it took time to seat his temporary replacement, then the Tea Party win their special election.

With that, the broken Senate version that was meant to be reconciled with the House version and cleaned up couldn't happen, so the House had to pass the Senate version verbatim to avoid a filibuster by the Dems.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Are there any statistics about people who complain about nominees not participating in primaries?

[-] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

No, but ShitLibs operate on vibes and not facts anyway. If they operated on facts, they'd notice their party has done nothing but help push the Overton Window right for damn near half a century now.

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Getting paid by Israel.

[-] m3t00@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

they need to go if they aren't doing anything. 'vote them all out' bumper stickers have been warning for years.

[-] jve@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago
[-] ErrorCode@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

The Dems exist to prevent the rightward slide from ever shifting back. That is why they fight harder against progressives than Republicans.

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[-] MonkRome@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

I want to preface this by saying that I think the democrats have no fucking idea how to do messaging and opposition.

But even if they did, we live in a system that wants their message to be ignored. Anything a politician says that is bad for business will not be televised. Or twisted to make them sound crazy. They have to oppose a regime that has nearly 100% of major media at least begrudgingly supporting if not enthusiastically.

I used to work in politics, it is next to impossible to get your message out if people with money don't want your message heard. The most important messaging is free media, as in the news and social media. Both of those have heavy corporate backing trying to control the narrative. Even the most progressive DSA politician has a hell of a time getting their real message through a controlled information stream.

The Dumbocrats are perpetual failures mixed in with some dino's but the media is a bigger issue, imo.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago

They have to oppose a regime that has nearly 100% of major media at least begrudgingly supporting if not enthusiastically.

This is the biggest problem. And it's not just legacy media, but also modern media. Zuck, Musk, and fucking Spez control basically all the social media that isn't the fediverse. All fascists or fascist-wannabes.

[-] atm0Sph3r3Junk13@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Remember this guy? (Rest in Power)

WSJ article

[-] huppakee@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

Increasingly more popular opinion: the US government takeover committed by the Trump oligarchy is as much the result of incompetence of the Democratic party as it was a plan of evil 'geniuses'.

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[-] Kintarian@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

The corporate Democrats don't want to piss off their owners

[-] Insekticus@aussie.zone 164 points 3 days ago

It really goes to show how both parties have been captured by corporate and religious interests, and everyone's on the take and making bank on insider trading.

Nearly the entire system is rotten, bar a few who seem to still be holding on to do good for the people (AOC, Bernie, Mamdani, El-Sayed, Tallarico, etc).

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

nonsense the dems are hard at work getting power back in the midterms

it is you with your both side crap that is feeding the apathy that might save this admninistration in november

same as the last election. useless commie nonsense. the DSA is even worse with their unelectable policies

[-] earlgrey0@sh.itjust.works 49 points 3 days ago

Well it does feel like this cycle, more and more of the good folks are winning and showing what government can do for people. Here’s to hoping that they keep winning and take over.

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[-] bad1080@piefed.social 28 points 2 days ago

it's almost like a two party system was a bad idea

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

It's not a two-party system. It's a one-party system disguised as a two-party system.

It's not the Democrats vs the Republicans

It's the oligarchs vs the people.

The democratic party is overflowing with oligarch sychophants.

Congress is full of people who will talk about progressive points, then vote the other way.

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[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 51 points 2 days ago

They are complicit controlled opposition. Their only job is to keep the left out of power. That's why they're more upset about socialists than Trump, ultimately Trump is on their side and the socialists are not.

[-] stretch2m@infosec.pub 62 points 3 days ago

I begged my congressman to support articles of impeachment. His response was basically that they don't have the votes, so why bother? He even said that if they did, it would be performative and would play into persecution rhetoric for Trump.

So that's where we are now. The only people with the political power to oust a tyrant have thrown in the towel.

I tried to reason with him that it matters. Even if they don't have the votes to convict. Impeach him once a week of you have to. Persecute the motherfucker!

But no, I guess re-election to Congress is more important.

Fucking joke.

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[-] hayvan@piefed.world 33 points 2 days ago

Because they are, for the most part, wealth class. Average citizen getting robbed or screwed over isn't a concern.

Why rock the boat and risk getting noticed in a negative way when you can do nothing and enjoy your privileged place!

[-] Hell_nah_brother@thelemmy.club 20 points 2 days ago

Instead of attacking? Are you cowboys ok? Apparently you still don’t understand shit if this is the trash that gets posted. Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

You live in a violent dictatorship, there is no voting system you fucking dipshits.

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[-] Akh@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

The democratic elite are in bed with Epstein

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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

The Dem party is an enrichment cult that happens to tackle a few social issues.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

pretend to tackle actually. its called wet your appetite, or throw the dog a bone. its limited by design, so they dont lose thier political capital in getting elected next election.

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