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No internet required... In this video, I build a public Reticulum node and test whether it can bridge completely different networks into one encrypted communication path. I send messages from a normal phone over LTE, through the internet and Starlink, then off-grid over LoRa—eventually using a $20 drone-mounted relay to reach a phone with no internet connection at all.

repo: https://github.com/markqvist/reticulum

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[-] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

He still has to demonstrate this actually adds any value compared to just using Meshtastic with MQTT enabled. Right, it integrates with SSH natively...

[-] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 39 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"Internet killer"

I send messages from a normal phone over LTE, through the internet... to reach a phone with no internet connection at all

[-] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 4 days ago

Sure. But the point is with Reticulum you dont NEED to leverage existing internet infrastructure. This guy chose to for his demo, but you could easily do the same thing over RS485, or a serial port, or ametuer radio bands. The protocol is medium agnostic.

No, its no internet killer. But its useful right now and pretty fun to mess around with.

[-] sobchak@programming.dev 14 points 4 days ago

I think it's illegal to use Reticulum over amatuer radio because it's encrypted?

[-] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago

You're correct. But the protocol supports it.

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Biggest bullshit ever written in the history of mankind.

[-] pumpupthejam@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago

What has the constitution got to do with any of this? Winky face.

[-] AgentSeven@lemmy.zip 30 points 4 days ago

I believe this stuff is going to be huge Reticulum, Lora, Meshtastic all bit players now in a drama that has yet to get a finished script. It will start out as a supplement to the Internet, allowing you connectivity even when your Internet falters and as it becomes more ubiquitous, it will be increasingly used/usable and increasingly important. It can't be shut down, it can't be controlled. A country would literally have to ban radio signals of any kind in order to shut it down. It's free. Buy the hardware, use the network, because you are the network. I love this.

[-] sobchak@programming.dev 15 points 4 days ago

LoRa is very low bandwidth, only suitable for short text messages. Radio frequencies are heavily regulated, easy to triangulate, and can be shutdown. People could build a higher speed, planned WiFi mesh; hops just have to be closer. Neighborhoods could build cat6 and fiber into meshes if they wanted to as well.

[-] AgentSeven@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

hops just have to be closer.

It doesn't take much of a leap of imagination to see a torrent-like system utilizing all available devices within earshot to spread the bandwidth around to realize a pretty fast system available nearly everywhere in dense urban areas and slower (but ubiquitous) coverage the more rural you get. Obviously we're far away from that now, but this definitely seems like the future to me.

[-] leanleft@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago
[-] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago

Except the LTE, Internet and Starlink would be your ISP. It’s whatever facilitates an IP(v6) address to connect to the web.

[-] FatherPeanut@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago

That is what he used, but it is possible to go from Reticulum to Reticulum device without the need for those services, he just happened to use them in the video example. In this hypothetical future, those services won't be completely cut out anytime soon, but it is possible to rely on them much lesser.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 14 points 4 days ago

Reticulum is a great project, but it's not a replacement for the internet. LoRA (a potential piece in that chain) has very low data throughput; it's fine for messages, but you're not delivering web pages or streaming media with it.

Unless and until the throughput can be increased, Meshtastic/Meshcore is really only a replacement for text messaging, which might be perfectly fine for setting up encrypted comms or rapidly deploying communications in an emergency scenario.

[-] sculptor0725@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

That was the thing that made me think reticulum was worth pursuing actually. It does work over a lot of stuff besides lora. You can mesh WiFi routers or other protocols. The issue is bandwidth ota since so much is dedicated to commercial stuff, but you can route reticulum over that including through i2p for anonymity. Meshtastic very much focuses on lora only, reticulum does not.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago

Yep, I agree with all of that. The original source here is specifically using LoRA, which is why I focused upon it, but Reticulum is certainly more than that.

[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Exactly the problem: bandwidth and latency.

The radio frequencies these run at and the power they're allowed to use limits them to very very low bandwidth for data transfer. They can't even do a low bitrate audio stream.

What they can do is messaging without 3rd party oversight and with adhoc data links. They're very very cool for offline networks, especially in places without extant infrastructure for transmissions.

[-] alpha1beta@piefed.social 10 points 4 days ago

This title is so bad it gave me cancer

[-] sp3ctre@feddit.org 5 points 4 days ago

Running a reticulum node myself. Great project!

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Huh. I actually didn't know that this supports up to 1gbps. I thought it was just low bandwidth.

[-] eutampieri@feddit.it 4 points 4 days ago

It is as soon as you use LoRa. Reticulum is just an overlay

[-] vext01@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago

Had a play with meshtastic, but no other nodes in my city.

[-] QuadratureSurfer@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago

Meshcore seems to be the more popular choice: https://meshcore.io/map

[-] vext01@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago

Interesting. A couple of nodes nearby.

Will try.

[-] foxfell@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Where are you living? Make sure you read local forums, they might have specific connection settings to hide. Anyway meshtastic is slow and cannot even transmit voice. This could be better if there will be nodes.

[-] QuadratureSurfer@piefed.social 0 points 4 days ago

Definitely an interesting video to watch and I like what he's doing.

I did find that his script seemed to be fairly repetitive for a number of points he was making, but I'm still subscribing since, overall, it was a good informative video. Thanks for sharing!

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