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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org to c/retrocomputing@lemmy.sdf.org

This follows from my previous thread. I am struggling to find a list of laptops and their CPUs from that time period. Data sources covering that would be appreciated!

In principle, www.notebookcheck.net would be useful. But there are some ad-pushing protectionist motherfuckers behind that site. And 12ft.io is gone (either bullyed offline or could not workaround Google pulling the plug on their caches).

(update) Wow, here is a gem. Do I understand correctly -- there are 2025 laptops with a Trinity CPU? (edit) Something seems off.. they mention the Ideapad 1 as having the Trinity chip, but this says otherwise. Although “Ideapad 1” is apparently a series.

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[-] death_to_carrots@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

With ublock origin in Firefox the site works fine.

[-] evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

Perhaps you need uMatrix to go far enough to trigger their protectionism.

[-] Krusty@quokk.au 2 points 1 week ago

Trinity series processors just had the TPM on the motherboard instead of the chip...

[-] evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That’s something different. The PSP is separate and runs in parallel to (and independent of) the TPM. The two coexist because they serve different purposes. “As of 2025, a TPM is provided by nearly all PC and notebook manufacturers in their products.” So 12 years following the introduction of the PSP, the TPM is still in play.

I thought the TPM was relatively innocuous for those not running oppressive software. But perhaps I should revisit this, considering this from wikipedia:

“In 2015, Richard Stallman suggested replacing the term "trusted computing" with the term "treacherous computing" due to the danger that the computer can be made to systematically disobey its owner if the cryptographical keys are kept secret from them.”

RMS specifically condemns TPM version 2.0. Not sure what version motherboards for the Trinity CPU use.

I previously thought TPM had no remote relationships. But remote attestation is certainly an anti-feature if the hardware can talk to the cloud without the control of users on a FOSS platform. Is that the concern that you have? I need to get to the bottom of this. Unlike the PSP, the TPM is open source. So the TPM should be well understood. The fact that the PSP is closed-source is in itself a problem. Obviously PSP is something to avoid.

[-] Krusty@quokk.au 1 points 1 week ago

I think the general consensus is that you would need local administrative access or physical access... At that point you're kind of already pwnd.

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