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[-] Gork@sopuli.xyz 165 points 2 weeks ago

Looks like I'm gonna keep on rocking my pre-Covid era computer without an upgrade for a few more years.

[-] brem@lemmy.world 47 points 2 weeks ago

Keep it as long as possible, the new shit suuuucks, is built to break & riddled with adware.

Back in my day ;) we had to worry about keeping up with the newest tech because you needed it for the best games or whatever.

These days, my desktop from 2014 can run all of the new games that I want to play (yes, even the demanding ones) It has 32 gigs ram and a 1660 Ti. That's really all I need, especially since most of the games I enjoy AREN'T new.

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago

How is adware an issue? I haven’t had any of that with my Mint machine.

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[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 23 points 2 weeks ago

My steam deck has become my all in one. Sucks memory card prices have leaped the past year. But I got a couple terabytes, so I'll be alright, just going to have to shuffle them around. But I'm cool with not having 240 hz 4k on Powerthirst settings. I got a back log anyways and a yard to get back into shape.

[-] rozodru@piefed.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I got 3 6+ year old thinkpads that are all chugging along just fine. got them all for dirt cheap.

But as another person said keep that shit for as long as possible and learn how to properly maintain it. New stuff is absolutely horrible. I recently had an ASUS laptop that fried itself after 3 years. was getting really wonky 2 years in.

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[-] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 weeks ago

Sold out with pinky promises, not with actual money, no.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

its nvidia and AI creating a bubble on the belief they'll be able to get profit and get out before it pops.

But all it is.. is imaginary money going around in circles. nvidia invests a trillion in AI, AI buys a trillion dollars of nvidia videocards from some nebulous point in the future where they arent made yet, nvidia invests that trillion back into AI, AI uses it to buy ridiculous amounts of ram that wont be made for years, RAM invests it back into AI, and on and on they go, generating imaginary money and value, by buying imaginary things.

under a sane government this would be investigated as raw stock manipulation and fraud

I really hope when this bubble pops nvidia is destroyed in the process along with the AI companies.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago

Nvidia already made tons of profit off it. They're the ones selling shovels.

[-] Magnum@infosec.pub 11 points 2 weeks ago

nvidia is actually the only one that made profit

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[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 78 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

To build chips that are used as collateral for datacentres that have yet to be built, so the chips can’t be used, and they’ll just age out of usefulness.

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[-] Dookieman12@piefed.social 76 points 2 weeks ago

My prediction:

  1. Investors continue to fuel demand, choking supply
  2. Plans to monetize LLMs don't pan out
  3. Eventually, lenders call their margins
  4. Investors see the called margins and get spooked; demand fizzles
  5. AI companies desperately try to liquidate their positions. Seeing the price of components, there's a rush to sell while prices are high.
  6. PC components flood the market
  7. Record high supply, record low prices
  8. PC gaming golden age
[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 69 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They aren’t PC components. They’re server GPUs.

They don’t even have ROPs anymore. There was a time when the Nvidia P100/A100 could technically game, but that’s generations ago.


FYI, during the crypto busts, Nvidia bought back GPUs and basically incinerated them to keep demand for new stuff up.

…I’m pretty sure that’s what they will do again.

[-] njordomir@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

It's frustrating to see the tech industry take this path, because there were alternative paths that didn't lead us here. We are in a selfish and shortsighted time.

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[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 53 points 2 weeks ago

PC components flood the market

*Server-grade purpose built AI components flood the market

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

SXM to PCIe adapters already exist hehe

Not to mention my dumbass would chuck money at a whole server just to throw it in my home lab.

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[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 51 points 2 weeks ago

Just like how GPUs became cheap and plentiful after mining crypto became passé, right?

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

...They actually did.

I got an AMD 7950 is a crypto bust. Then a Nvidia 980 TI in the next one, dirt cheap.

Nvidia figured it out in the most recent bust though, and controlled supply fairly well.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 weeks ago

After the last crypto bust, prices stayed up though. They're still way higher than before the last crypto boom.

And nVidia, AMD, Intel all know better now than to overproduce consumer GPUs.

[-] Lydia_K@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

I want to believe

[-] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 14 points 2 weeks ago

HBM and Vera Rubin are not useful for PC Gaming, at least not for current architectures. Main issue is that DDR5 production simply got cut to make more HBM. But there will be a huge amount of LPDDR, NVME / SSD drives and refurbished Hard Drives available, and hardware for running inference at home for pretty powerful models will become cheap as fuck, liberating us all from the hyperscalers; the open weights models from china are available for everyone.

At least i pray it will be this way.

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[-] Prox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

6 will actually be "RAM suppliers buy the stock in bulk and sell as refurbs, keeping prices up"

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[-] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 71 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] motruck@lemmy.zip 55 points 2 weeks ago

Good. Time for software to be optimized again.

[-] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 weeks ago

how will the vibe coders survive this?

please, will somebody please think about the feelings of the poor vibe coders :(

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 weeks ago

Vibe coders will ask the AI to write everything in Rust, memory usage will be reasonably low

The people writing everything in Electron are gonna have a fun time with their users though.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Half the joke of the AI bubble is how American tech firms prioritized brute force over efficient engineering.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Truth.

I am astounded that games like Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider and Abe's Oddysee with their massive sprawling worlds were crammed into such relatively tiny file sizes.

Necessity gets results

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago
[-] kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

This guy actually Making RAM at Home

Really interesting watch actually. But uh, I don’t think we’re gaming on homemade RAM anytime soon lol

[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 34 points 2 weeks ago

Things don't add up. I see articles about computer parts becoming unavailable along with articles about data center plans being cancelled or not getting built. I assume the data centers ARE getting built and those second articles are lies to calm people down.

[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 64 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

OpenAI has a deal with Samsung and SK Hynix to purchase 900,000 DRAM wafers per month, or 40% of global DRAM output. These are just uncut wafers, accumulating in warehouses that serve two purposes:

  • Prepares them for the distribution to data centers,
  • Manipulates the supply chain to squeeze their competitors, who are left with slim pickings.

You and I are the victims of this until the bubble finally pops and the deal falls through.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You and I are the victims

We're way downstream. The "victims" are all the SaaS and smaller market cap firms that need business compute for accounting and commerce.

Case in point, I got a request for a new server delayed three months because we blew through our Q1 budget for new hardware faster than expected.

That's not really hurting me, personally. But it means our server teams need to do more with less even as the business expands.

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[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago

Dodge must be pretty happy.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 22 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

My kid wants to build a gaming PC for their birthday.

Am I cooked?

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Your bank account certainly will be.

That said, if you buy refurb you can put together a decent rig on a budget.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Recently built a computer for my kiddo. Beg, borrow, and steal. And keep an eye out for motherboard and memory combos from new egg.

[-] Davel23@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago

See if there's a Microcenter anywhere near you. They fairly regularly have pretty good deals on CPU/MB/RAM bundles.

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[-] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 17 points 2 weeks ago

At least monitors are cheap now.

[-] HertzDentalBar 18 points 2 weeks ago

At least till they decide the AIs all need faces 🤣

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[-] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Didn't know people liked shitty trucks that much

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[-] SoupBrick@pawb.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

My bad, guys. I needed to upgrade my rig. I am planning to play BF7.

[-] PillowD@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Replace some of the labor you would use to pay for RAM and put it into learning a lighter weight operating system.

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