
Wait, you're telling me we don't have a return plan EITHER?
Head exploding...
I'm at the age where I don't even have a car.
I park as far away as I'm able to walk in order not to drive around to find parking. I've found that it saves time on the long run, gas, and mor importantly my own stress and mental health.
I do that to. What I love is that while walking the last hundreds meters to the place you are going you can see all the people who try to park close that are all getting angry in their cars, proving you were right to park further away.
Once you start you never go back.
I'm at the age that the first train to the event being full is enough to make me go home.
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I will drive 20 extra minutes not to wait 10 minutes in gridlock.
I will park a mile away and walk in rather than circle for 10 minutes for a parking spot.
I wife is not a fan of either of these traits.
Driving further to avoid traffic makes sense: it seems to cause stress:
Drive there, park 5 miles away and e bike in
But cars are freedom! They let you go anywhere you want, right? /s
Yes, like away from crowded areas.
As yes, in the immortal words of Kris Kristofferson, "Freedom's just another word for deciding where you want to go based on other people not wanting to go there, too. (And somebody building a road to get there.)"
I'm not driving to whatever it is.
This is the way. I've learned after too many concerts, fairs, games, various other large events, that is just not worth it. I'm taking public transit, petal taxi, Lyft, whatever. I don't want to spend 2 hours of my day doing nothing but staring at tail lights.
If you can bike, bike. Bike parking always within 50m of the venue 😎
Genuinely don’t get this, go by public transit.
My drive to the store: 10minutes,with traffic and hitting red lights.
My public transit to the same store: 15 minutes of walking, 30-45 minutes of waiting for a bus at the closest stop to me, it's late or will skip my stop as usual. 20 minutes to get to the next stop that will get me to the store but I have to wait another 5-10 minutes for the bus that actually gets closest to the store to arrive, and 5-10 minutes for it to make it's closest pass. 10 more minutes to walk to the store.
Now do it all in reverse! Luckily the route is slightly faster on the way home because the first bus I take usually chills at the hospital for a little bit and I can just hop a few fences to get to my house quicker than the bus.
So that 10 minute ride in a car now takes me many hours.
Legally I'm not allowed to bike there since I have to cross highways and private property. I still do it when it's cool enough to bike. For the same reasons, I can't walk to the store either, even if my knee could handle the distance.
Depends where you live and how that area is designed. In much of the US unfortunately public transportation isn't even an option or is an option that is so slow or so expensive it isn't affordable. Vehicles may not be either, but that's not how many people see it.
Same for when I get to work…
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It’s way before that for me. When I get word of the event, I look up the venue immediately to see the parking situation. If it’s bad and the event isn’t too important, I’m not going.
I guess I've always been that age. 🤷
I don't drive a car and hate them very much, but I have this in common with motorists. Only what I'm looking for is a secure place to lock my bike. Which is somehow often rarer than a parking space for cars.
I got my bike stolen while it was locked by the side of a Walmart, so now I'm much more careful about the "parking situation" and I use a bike share or public transit if I fear for the safety of my vehicle.
Me, arriving by train:
The event might be groceries and I just don't have the mental fortitude to deal with both a full parking lot I will have to walk from the other side of, but also wade through the sea of people inside.
The walking doesn't bother me, I usually park more than halfway to the far side anyway since there's less cars and I can pull through the spaces to park easier.
I have been driving for 20 years without having to pay for parking, and now I'm struggling to find free parking anywhere.
First world problem, but still dystopian compaired to what i grew up with.
More rent seeking. Some company convinced cities that pay for parking would make the city money…with a nice cut for the company.
Edit: the parking is already paid for because taxes paid to pave the roads where the parking is. Paid parking is an additional tax with a corporate middleman skimming off the top.
it's more about the city not losing money by offering parking for free. infrastructure and space aren't cheap
now the private companies, fuck those
I don't drive but can't you park somewhere else and walk?
Americans do walk sometimes, but only if it's a special event raising money for charity, or on vacation to a theme park like Disney World or Europe. Otherwise, if you can't park your car literally within sight of your destination, "there's no parking!"
My ex spouse is like this drove me batshit. Going to where they worked that's a 15 minute walk I'd just walk and they'd drive, by the time they found parking I was already inside sitting. Sometimes parking was so far away they'd end up walking nearly 10 minutes anyways. Years of trying I could never convince them to just walk to work. I never understood it, still don't, why would they prefer that?
I don't own a car, I don't need one. One excuse less.
I love driving but hate weird parking situations. So much that I won't even pull into a fuel station if I have to wait for a pump. In big parking lots I park way out at the end and walk instead of dodging all the cars and people up closer to the buildings.
Just take the tram (if you got one)
Most places I’ve visited don’t have trams, but there’s sometimes a bus service.
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