i hate it when trespassers buy tickets.
Not a lawyer, but I'm guessing the trespassing applies when they opted to enter restricted areas of the facility, or maybe the air around it.
"I had no way of knowing I wasn't permitted to climb over the glass, there was no sign and nobody told us not to" is a perfectly valid defence, IMO. Whether it "should be common sense" or not is irrelevant.
You can't claim someone has trespassed when all they did was just choose an alternate route back to ground level, much less an alternate route that did not say "don't take this route".
Courts frequently use the standard of whether a "reasonable person would have known" something. They might try to play dumb, but it almost definitely wouldn't work as a defense. Trespassing laws don't require signage, a clear structural barrier is enough.
This is state by state. Where I live singage is explicitly required. Every 50ft.
Private property can trespass anyone at anytime for any reason though. That applies everywhere. Trying to get them for criminal trespass is a waste of time. What the police would like to know is exactly who they are and to trespass them from there, in just to get their records going.
Yes, laws do vary by state, but those signage laws typically apply to open land, not internal buildings/structures. A store doesn't need signage to prevent you from hopping over the counter to where the register is.
But you do not need them on your house, even if you have your windows open.
As a reasonable person I think it was an awesome idea, and in fact think they should open this up to everyone that can base jump say every month or so.
They took the same route they would have, had the building not been there.
I agree. Best they can do is say "don't so it again, you're not allowed here anymore". No signage or prior warnings means no charges.
My understanding is, you aren’t “trespassing” in publicly accessible areas, until you’ve been told to leave and refused^*^
^*^^Of^ ^course^ ^it^ ^varies^ ^from^ ^jurisdiction^ ^to^ ^jurisdiction,^ ^but^ ^generally^ ^in^ ^the^ ^U.S.^
The fuck is with all those carets?
Your client isn't rendering the markdown correctly, carets are how you make superscript (or smaller) text.
Ah. I'm just on mbin on Firefox.
I can think of better things the police could be doing
On that we agree.
I understand in concept why it's important to go after base jumpers, but there's almost certainly bigger fish to fry. Police are fucking lazy.
They say they're searching but I bet they're not doing shit. Nobody got hurt and, as you say, they're fucking lazy.
It's Seattle cops, we should be grateful they're doing anything
Well I think doing nothing is better than most of what they do. Just doing nothing night not hurt anyone
Looks like a few other people implemented a better thing for them to do.
Another unbalanced and inordinate waste of taxpayer dollars. Spending 10's of thousands of dollars to try and write 2 trespassing tickets is fucking stupid. They did it. They got away. They didn't hurt themselves or anyone else. Now go have some donuts and shut the fuck up piggies.
This is Seattle pd we're talking about
Hogs, then
Check for whoever played the Rivoli that night.
I came here for this reference glad I found it.
Shame it's at the bottom. That movie was my number 1 last year, and that's as someone who never heard of them prior.
All they have to do is wait. They’ll come down eventually.
Now we wait for the jumpers' GoPro footage to be posted.
Aren't parachutes a pretty conspicuous piece of equipment? I would have thought that staff would know to look for them. I might be ignorant here though.
There’s not that much security there so even if staff noticed depending on how things went there wouldn’t have been much time to seriously react to the “threat” but also, who cares? They didn’t hurt anyone
Nirvana the Band the Show the Movie obviously.
But have we seen their show?? Did it work???
Oh no! Trespassing!
Just Do It...
Don't they have anything better to do?
They do now. There was a mass shooting there yesterday.
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