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Banned for downvoting, probably (lemmy.today)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by Wren@lemmy.today to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I debated posting this, but it's a lazy, rainy Saturday and this is the hot topic, why not?

  1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards? AdmiralPatrick
  2. What sanction did they impose? Community ban. Additionally, three of my communities were on the tesseract ban list.

I was the one of the first downvotes on the latest post here: https://lemmy.today/post/57202811 which probably instigated the ban.

Aaaand I was linking to the Admiral's rant all over lemmy, which may have been part of it.

Now, this kinda sucks because I liked tesseract up until I couldn't mod my own communities anymore, finding out later that they were on the ban list. Of course when a locked post comes up trying to make sense of the community blocks, calling them unstable and unmoderated, I'm gonna downvote that shit.

My username wasn't even on the original ban list, just those communities.

There's nothing toxic or unmoderated about anything I run. Not to mention that one of those communities has barely over 100 subscribers and exists just to post a few daily news articles from independent, Canadian sources.

I know nothing about the ban list makes any sense, but blocking three small news communities with posts that rarely get more than two comments and twenty upvotes is crazy. He would have had to search and dig and dig just to find them.

It's extra nuts considering my brandnewsentence community gets wayyyy more feisty comments than the rest put together, and it's not blocked.

So there's your drama, it's a poor consolation prize for the loss of a pretty good front end. I'm looking forward to the fork and any updates on the ban list.

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[-] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 50 points 3 days ago

The crashout is been real. It's nice to see pretty much everyone joining together to say secret blacklists are unacceptable

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 days ago

Mood. That kind of thing was low-key why I gave up on trying to persist on reddit. Doesn't matter as much if it's just one app here but it's a shitty precedent to bring into a place where people are championing transparency

[-] volore@scribe.disroot.org 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lol. Lmao, even.

Bro is genuinely furious that nobody sees him as the savior of the fediverse guiding the normies the way his own ego does.

edit: okay, I admit, I was wrong... There are at least a few of you.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 days ago

people didn't like my post saying it was their fault and no reflection on why people were upset?? It must just be people with a grudge against me

But yeah this entire saga is someone upset people don't like having things hidden from them in code especially when it effects everything and users have absolutely no control

[-] Wren@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

He seems to think the people "brigading" him are the so called "toxic" people he tried to exclude in the first place. He hasn't clued in that most of us (probably) are pissed off for exactly the reasons you say. Being called a toxic malcontent with a community full of vitriol isn't great.

[-] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 4 points 3 days ago

What does AdmiralPatrick and PirateSoftware have in common?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 days ago

Willing to go out of the way to anger anyone that would be be supportive?

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is a different person from the PieFed dev, right? If I had nickel for each time a dev of a popular fediverse software tried to sneak secret censorship into their software... well you get it. Admittedly this one seems way worse than the piefed one. That was reversed, right?

I just don't get how anyone would think users would want or even be remotely ok with this.

Oh yeah PTB, obviously. Banning for downvoting a single post has got to be one of the worst reasons imaginable.

[-] ada 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The piefed stuff has never been secret. If you set up a piefed instance, the options and toggles are right there in the admin settings, and can be turned off by the admins.

Opinionated fediverse devs writing apps that create the environment they want is a good thing when the bells and whistles they add in can easily be identrified, toggled and adjusted by end users and admins. This is what piefed does. Rimu coding the sort of thing he wants to use is better than Rimu coding nothing because he's not creating something meaningful to him.

It's very different to the tesseract situation, in which the blacklists were obfuscated, so that people wouldn't even realise they were missing content, and didn't know how to disable the blacklist even if they did realise it existed.

[-] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 11 points 3 days ago

I do feel like piefed should disclose what settings are enabled on the server we're using. Many of us came to the fediverse to get away from algorithms.

[-] ada 8 points 3 days ago

It does disclose it to the admins. I'm not sure how you would disclose it to general users? It's not really a fediverse norm to expose admin settings to everyone. Though now that you say it, that might be a good thing to normalise?

[-] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 7 points 3 days ago

Transparency of things that can affect a user's experience is always a good thing to normalize to me. Maybe these admin setting values could be exposed with the API so apps and the server finder sites can show them?

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

What should be exposed is something of a balancing act. Instance federation is exposed. The slur filter isn’t, presumably so people don’t game it. I think history shows that the lead Lemmy devs don’t in principle object to exposure, but practicality does factor in.

[-] Wren@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago

I didn't hear about the piefed thing getting reversed. Great, if so.

But yeah, different person.

[-] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

@Wren@lemmy.today Heres a fork with the banlist removed. https://github.com/db0/tesseract

[-] Wren@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago

Thank you kindly.

[-] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

You are welcome :>

[-] Catoblepas 3 points 3 days ago

up until I couldn't mod my own communities anymore, finding out later that they were on the ban list.

Considering how wholesome and cool your communities are, this is absolutely bonkers to me. You don’t mod any communities remotely offensive or extreme, wtf? And they obviously aren’t unmoderated either.

[-] Wren@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thank you for saying so!

It was just the three news communities. I would be way more indignant if Cool Rocks was on there.

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

No idea what this is all about, so I read whomever's "elephant in the room" post on the tesseracts sub, and good god it sounds like someone in the throes of a mental health problem.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

PSA: The Tesseract frontend includes a hardcoded hidden instance blacklist with all leftist and trans-friendly instances.

TLDR: they were secretly censoring the Fediverse and silencing human rights activists via a Lemmy client frontend

[-] Nima@leminal.space 5 points 3 days ago

indeed. and everyone dogpiling to make the situation worse.

[-] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 14 points 3 days ago

Patrick fucked around and found out the hard way why being a self-righteous, pompous douche doesn't bode well for the success of his projects.

[-] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 days ago

Oh no, a fascist is seeing that everyone despises them for their actions they tried to hide :(

[-] Angular@crazypeople.online 3 points 3 days ago

You know what the Streisand effect is? That’s what all of this bitching about Tesseract is doing. Stoooooppppp

[-] Wren@lemmy.today 28 points 3 days ago

The Streisand effect is the phenomenon in which an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information results in the unintended consequence of the effort instead increasing public awareness of the information.

I'm not trying to hide information and I want to bring awareness to it.

[-] Angular@crazypeople.online 13 points 3 days ago

Oops, I think I confused it with something else or I misunderstood it lol. My bad.

I was trying to say bitching about an asshat dev is only bringing his wanted attention to his project.

[-] Wren@lemmy.today 16 points 3 days ago

Sure, negative attention.

If a few future users decide they like arbitrary bans and a lack of transparency, I hope they find their happy place.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 3 days ago

Sometimes any attention is better than none, you know?

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

I din't think anybody want to use an tool that may censor them from whatever dumb reason the creator deemed valid

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Not really, in the sense, that they had already been in control and responsible for the parts of the project; this was not something they wanted made known.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

It’s not hard to read between the lines. They didn’t git commit the JSON file in gzip format to save space. They did it to obfuscate it. Their change commits never mention changes to that file because they don’t want attention drawn to it.

[-] Sandbar_Trekker@piefed.zip 4 points 3 days ago

That's more of a "there is no such thing as bad publicity" angle to the situation.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This logic doesn't apply as the Streisand effect is when someone does something shitty, and then tries to cover it up and it leads to more people finding out about it leading to more people thinking what that person did was shitty.

The Streisand effect does not equal all publicity is good publicity.

Trump raping children and then covering it up is the Streisand effect. Saying trump raped children doesn't promote Trump.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 3 days ago

Saying it while he gets away with it and gloats may.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 2 points 3 days ago

He's gloating while retreating with his tail between his legs. And the move people that know what they tried to do, the better.

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