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submitted 3 weeks ago by randamumaki to c/memes@lemmy.world

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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 156 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just some Lemmy web front end that rolls with some instances for which the admin injected a block list for accounts that are unapologetically pro-trans and/or leftist. People, myself included, are on that block list. There is much more to it but that's the jist.

[-] randamumaki 91 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So just the usual stupidity then. Cool. Wish people could just act normal. Diversity is a natural thing and to deny it is insanity.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 72 points 3 weeks ago

You're probably blocked now for saying that.

[-] randamumaki 41 points 3 weeks ago
[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, it is a sign that you are a good and decent person IMO.

[-] randamumaki 17 points 3 weeks ago

Awesome, do I get a club card? Is there a badge? Do we have weekly or monthly meetings? ;)

[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

Isn't the whole of blahaj blocked anyway? The dev who implemented this is an asshole of the first order. Implementing a broad block list without the knowledge of the users is one thing, but the statement they gave afterwards, my god, what a knob.

[-] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

you just know he totally comes here on another instance to read the responses anyway

we seeeee you

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

That's a big distortion. They are accounts that advocate violence or other problematic political views. Many of them are also LGBT, but that's not why they are on the block list.

I do think it's problematic for a client/frontend to default-block any group of individuals or instances at all, but portrayimg it as motivated by bigotry when it's not is pretty messed up too.

[-] gh0stcassette 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

but portrayimg it as motivated by bigotry when it's not is pretty messed up too.

Explain to me the non-bigoted reason for blocking the entire lemmy.blahaj.zone instance (which is predominantly trans), as well as blocking various terms related to queer identities. (Hint: there isn't one, fuck this guy.)

[-] randamumaki 10 points 3 weeks ago

Aw, you poor widdle soul. Stating they are advocating "problematic political views" is just telling on yourself, isn't it?

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[-] kamikazerusher@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

They are accounts that advocate violence or other problematic political views.

My username appears on the list and I don’t believe my comment history aligns with this statement at all. I believe my username is just unique enough to not have another instance of it. Selection of some usernames do not appear to support their (admiralpatrick) claims of violence advocation nor extreme political views.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

See, THIS is the issue I wish people would focus on. The dev of a pretty important frontend has set up a block list. They have made it the default. They have not applied a clear and equitable criteria, set up a community feedback channel, or any sort of crowdsourced input.

The modlog is open, meaning that anyone can see exactly what moderators and admins (generally) are up to. People can (and do) push back when things decisions are punitive, arbitrary, or unclear.

This is not that. You have no way to see why your username was included, or correct it if it was in error. There is no community feedback to direct what standard makes sense.

That's the problem. It's draconian. By manufacturing some shrill accusations of bigotry, yeah, it makes a lot more flashy posts, but doesn't help in addressing the issue. If we can't accurately name problems, we can't solve them. We are just a mob on a witch-hunt.

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Guessing you checked the list for your name again right before posting this lol

Why would you believe that reasoning? This guy is your friend or something?

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[-] Ariselas@piefed.ca 24 points 3 weeks ago

well, now I'm insulted that I wasn't on that list.

[-] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I know, me too! At least there is comfort in knowing he can’t shut us all up.

PRO-CHOICE 🩷 PRO-TRANS 🩷 ANTI-MAGA ❌ ANTI-ISRAEL ❌

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 6 points 3 weeks ago

You’re on my approved list ✅

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[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I’m sad I didn’t make the cut, but last I checked, I was the only active user on my instance lol. Like a one-man sloop in an ocean of clippers.

Sure, I could shut it down and just register elsewhere, but I keep it around as my service to an open web free from fascist and corporate control.

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[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 22 points 3 weeks ago

The block list is cringe lol. It reads like something a snowflake libertarian or centrist would make to isolate themselves from reality so they can live out their lives in delusion. 🙉 🙈 🙊

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly, it is delusional to assume you need some smoking gun to assume intent. There are others here using that line of logic to assume no bad intent. The logic is quite clear in the screed that the tesseract admiral put out there to defend themselves.

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 10 points 3 weeks ago

It’s also not in the spirit of what Lemmy is. Admins of instances are the ones that should have a say in their rules and tools. If you want to add a “Toxic Mode,” make it something the admin is not automatically opted into. Also, it’s pretty cowardly to not state the why behind any of this when it was created, and no community discussion. All the Tesseract dev has done is alienate themselves from the entire Lemmy community, except for the weird isolationist ones that just magically happen to have views that often align with conservatives and fascists.

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is what I feel is the biggest issue, the deception.

The fact that there’s a blacklist is almost inconsequential to the fact that it’s not explicitly stated, that it’s default applied AND the error message when you run into it implies it’s not from a blacklist.

Lies by omission are still lies no matter how much Patrick is crying about it always being there. If you’re not upfront about it, for something as incendiary as a shadowban list, especially for a community like lemmy, you’re a piece of shit and deserve to be ostracized.

If he had made it all transparent, we’d still make fun of him but at least he would be honest about it and give people the choice to decide for themselves.

[-] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, Lemmy and refusing to be exposed to opinions you disagree with. Classic.

[-] randamumaki 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Someone's existence is not to be debated. It's not an opinion to agree or disagree with. The frontend's creator needs to learn that lesson.

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

What's even the point of running a lemmy front end if you are going to block 99% of lemmy?

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Where can I see if I’m on the list? I want to be on the list!

Edit: I’M ON IT! I would like to thank the academy…

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[-] Avicenna@programming.dev 39 points 3 weeks ago

It is a list of all the cool people in lemmy

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This guide page goes into what an alternative UI is, and some of the popular ones that are available. It is a little out of date, ~~lemmy.ca also dropped tesseract~~ we are no longer hosting Tesseract for lemmy.ca

https://fedecan.ca/en/guide/threadiverse/alternative-uis

The controversy around tesseract is better explained elsewhere, but it boils down to a questionable blocklist that the dev was injecting into the tool, without it being made apparent to the users or admins

[-] petersr@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

How can an instance drop support for a fronted?

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

I'll edit that comment for clarity

We host a few of the frontends on our own infrastructure, which improves performance for users, among other benefits like reducing strain elsewhere. It's also easy for our local users to remember that old.lemmy.ca goes to the old interface, photon.lemmy.ca to photon, blorp.lemmy.ca to blorp etc. We are taking down the Tesseract one.

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[-] hDGGgrLpg8nEucjxWnJz@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

apparently its an enemy list of a POS lemmy facist.

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

It's the 4D analogue of the cube (a shape whose every "face" is a cube)

[-] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Fediverse has the best drama.

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