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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by 4TBHMeCCL@suppo.fi to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Inspired by a post I saw on AskReddit (which has now been removed). What is something you believe is growing because of young people?

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[-] SmokeInFog@midwest.social 55 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The consensus in the West that Israel is an unapologetic fascist ethno-state prosecuting a genocide against Palestinians

[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

Hey, now. You almost forgot to include the Lebanese people in that list.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

They haven't really done anything comparable to the Lebanese, but there is all kinds of places in the Middle East they covet.

[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Only because they haven't had as much time and because Iran (a major ally of Lebanon) is much more capable of fighting back. The Israeli government officials have said similarly genocidal language as they have been saying about Palestinians.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Iran is an ally of Hezbollah, which is actually in competition with the (other?) Lebanese state. Iran's also pretty tight with Palestinian Hamas.

[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that's true. Israel was specifically talking about Hezbollah when they said all of those things, but they are absolutely still massacring civilians, regardless of their ties to Hezbollah, as they are trying to seize land.

Iran does monetarilly support Hamas from what I understand, but they did not help militarilly defend either Hamas or Palestinians in Gaza when they were being massacred. It was only after Israel and the US attacked Iran directly that second time did Iran get involved militarilly.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

more than that, it extends to the us empire.

people seem to recognize that they are the baddies now.

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not just young people, but they help

[-] untorquer@quokk.au 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well certainly not Lemmy it seems 😝

I suggest that youth or young adults are a core contingent of pretty much every antifascist and climate movement. Those movements are growing as well.

[-] helix@feddit.org 12 points 3 weeks ago

The dicks of people in the Epstein files who are still not prosecuted

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 weeks ago

Mocktails and thrifting, in North America.

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

Huh, interesting. This is something i associate more with millennials

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Mocktails are definitely zoomers, IIRC millennials drink more like gen X. If you're in an area that had the OG hipsters, remember they were all guzzling craft beer.

Thrifting might go back further, but it's definitely a trend that continues.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

That's not because of young people, that's their reaction to the actions of the boomers.

[-] susi7802@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

Pubic and under arm hair. Body hair in general.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago
[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, fascism.

[-] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago
[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

It's hard to imagine why they would remove it; I can't think of a way that this topic would be objectionable to anyone.

[-] susi7802@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

You’d be surprised, matey.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Young people aren’t having babies. This is a growing global problem. It’s going to get so bad that we won’t have enough people to do all the work needed to support retirees.

It’s going to lead to unrest in many countries as normal services become unmanned and unreliable.

[-] nfreak@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 weeks ago

People are finally realizing that the current state of the world is abysmal for bringing a child into. My wife and I don't plan on kids anyway, but even if we did, there's no way in hell we could afford to within the next decade, not to mention how irresponsible it feels to introduce a new life to this fascist shithole.

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

I cannot believe my brother chose to have kids. There's no chance in hell I'd subject another human to this.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I would not even bring a dog into this world, let alone a human.

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Adopt one? Absolutely. Intentionally breed for puppies? Hell no.

[-] icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

This one's easily solved by removing restrictions on immigration

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not really. No country has all the resources to make or assembly all the critical items we all consume. We need people where they are so they can continue to make/produce/assemble.

[-] icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

This is the worst argument against immigration I've ever heard

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I’m not anti-immigration. Immigration is not the fix for how the world will deal with declining birth rates world wide, leading to a large gap between the number of available laborers and the number of laborers needed to keep things running smoothly.

Immigration only works if one country has more people than jobs while another country has more jobs than people.

What we’re headed into right now is more jobs than people by a LOT.

Also, Japan is a country that hit this problem early on (they culturally don’t have much immigration) and found that it’s also possible to export your dumb jobs to other countries that also buy the things they are making, keeping only the ones they are really good at in-country while scraping all the revenue from their exported labor. This only works because other countries were a little slower to run into this birth rate issue.

Most of these problems fall back to WW2 and the massive amount of babies that were born afterwards.

[-] icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

It's only really the hyper developed countries that are experiencing the massive drop off in birth rates, so immigration would actually help this problem significantly.

Also, the lack of immigration in Japan is as much a matter of policy as it is everywhere else. Their government heavily discourages migrant labour (due in part to cultural racism), which has made their plummeting birth rate much more of a problem than it needs to be.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

It’s not going to be enough.

Birth rates aren’t going to magically turn around, immigration isn’t going to magically fix it.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ultimately, so what? What is the problem you are attempting to prevent? Declining population is not per se a problem.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

At scale, global instability leading to supply chain breakdown, leading to disruption of things we don’t think could be scarce like CPUs, medical equipment, defensive weaponry.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

But also, a surfeit of resources and wealth. We've seen global population crashes before and (aside from the mass death that predicated them) I understand that the aftermath was actually quite pleasant.

If our system can't support even a steady state population, it needs to fail. Constant growth is a ponzi scheme.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

As population numbers fall, we won’t have people that can extract those resources.

We won’t have people to defend global trade routes. We’re seeing this already. The mighty US navy can’t prevent Iran from using cheap drones to choke the world of oil. Oil is used to make everything, and already there’s barely enough to go around.

Countries will enter unrest and devolve.

The next 25 years are going to be really bad.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

25 years isn't that long. If that's all it takes to transition to a static model, I take that deal any day of the week. The longer we predicate everything on growth, the worse transition gets.

[-] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is good for almost every living thing on the planet, lol.

In the UK we are hellbent on completely cutting immigration, and the same people who want to stop immigration also don't want to do anything to help more young people become more financially stable which would naturally lead to more births. Neoliberalism put us in the hole and people think fascism will get us out.

Speaking personally, I genuinely couldn't afford to have kids as well as pay for a mortgage/rent and own a car. If I can't get a mortgage or pay rent, I'm living with my parents forever. If I can't have a car, I can't get around very well because public transport where I live is shit. Therefore limited work options. So the obvious choice is to not have kids.

I agree this is going to become an even bigger problem in the future, if wealth inequality continues to grow and young people are left with a feeling of hopelessness unable to have a respectable quality of life.

[-] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago

This is only a problem if you view humans as more important than the rest of the living world. Like all of it.

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

Needoh consumption

[-] sangeteria@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Baggy pants and chunky white sneakers. Ugh I'm so done with then. When can we get back to straight cut? I'm so sick of the skinny-baggy jeans back and forth

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