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If the cartels took complete control of Mexico

So, in this situation does Mexico still have an economy? I assume tourism has stopped, but are they still a petroleum exporter? Do they still make cars and trucks for export? Do they still grow Avocados and sell them to the US? Because the Palestinians in Gaza don't really have an economy to speak of, so unless you first reduce Mexico's economy to something barely self-sustaining, it really isn't a fair comparison.

then stated their goal was to kill all Americans

Not much of a cartel if they're killing their best customers.

we might start patrolling our border a little harder

See, that's a key difference. Nobody's saying that Israel shouldn't patrol their own border. What's a bigger issue is that they're patrolling the other borders too. Israel is in a position to cut Gaza off completely. Israel can completely shut off water, food, fuel and power to Gaza. Even before this conflict they shut off tourism and fishing.

In your scenario, imagine the US Navy had carrier strike groups in the Gulf of Mexico and along the Pacific coast, preventing even fishing boats from leaving the Mexican shores. Now imagine the Guatemala and Belize borders were closed too, so that the entire country of Mexico was essentially a prison. That's the situation in Gaza.

Also, in your scenario, is the US government encouraging Americans to move to Mexico and set up little American compounds there, either by building their own houses or by kicking Mexicans out of theirs and moving in? When Americans go to Mexico and take over a Mexican house, are those Americans protected by the US military? And do they get the protection of US laws, as if the families still lived in the US?

there is a reason that Israel is in the West Bank in the first place

Yes, they have extremely unfriendly relationships with almost every neighbouring country, and they seized that territory after one of the many wars with those neighbours, and have continued to occupy it counter to international law. That, of course, leads to extremely unfriendly relationships with almost every neigbouring country, which leads to conflict, which leads to a need to try to control that territory.

there will never be peace in that region until Hamas is stripped of all power in Gaza

And Hamas (or a group like Hamas) will always be popular in Gaza until people in Gaza have a reason to stop hating Israel, which will only happen when Israel changes the way it treats them. But, Israel is unlikely to treat them better because they know that the people there support Hamas (or groups like Hamas) because of how Israel treats them.

This comment right here gives me hope for lemmy. First person I've seen who can think for himself here.

I appreciate this comment. I have had a circular problem trying to determine a way out of the “both sides suck, but right now you suck more”. Now actually convincing the 2 populations this and getting the political will power to enact it is a whole other beast. But for the moment, this internet stranger is on board.

“Give the land back” implies land can be owned at all, which fundamentally violates the right of others to freedom of movement.

That's a compelling idealistic position. But what we're really looking at right now is a simple "Might Makes Right" arrangement. Israel controls its territory firstly because it successfully perpetrated the Nakba back in '48 and purged its current territory of Palestinians. And secondly because it defeated its neighbors back in the '67 Seven-Day War.

In that sense, the land IS owned. It is owned by the victors in these incredibly violent conflicts.

Hamas are not freedom fighters, their the corrupt rez boss family that wittingly or not are the extension of the state’s oppression over the people.

They're whats left of the government that has been smashed up time and time again by a rival military. If they look and act like a crime family, it might be interesting to interrogate what kind of conflicts other crime families emerged from. Check out Operation Gladio and its influence over Italian-American mafias. Or look into how the collapse of the USSR gave birth to enormous European criminal cartels. Ask what happened in the wake of the American Civil War and how organized crime along the Gulf Coast emerged as a result. Or the Spanish and Chinese Civil Wars, for that matter.

At some point, trying to point at an organization and say "These people are uncompromisingly evil" misses the historical events that gave birth to them. The Israel Government is a consequence of European anti-Semitism and of the Cold War politics of the Middle East. Hamas is a consequence of Israeli police and paramilitary transforming Gaza into an enormous black market by necessity.

What comes next will be a consequence of what came before it. And moralizing the actors does nothing to illuminate what to anticipate next.

Has Israel made any promises about respecting Palestine's right to exist?

No, the current idea is to create a Palestinian state using the land that Israel currently occupies.

In 1988, with the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) intention to declare a Palestinian State, Jordan renounced all territorial claims to the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories

But I suspect you are trying (and failing) to create some "gotcha" moment. Israel doesn't have the legal right to annex Gaza, the West Bank, or East Jerusalem. They simply control it because they have more guns.