The majority of Gaza's residents are literally children...
It's insanely fucked up that isn't brought up enough, Israels government wants everyone to believe theyre monsters, but they're kids who have lived short brutal lives because of how Israel treats Gaza.
It's safe to assume roughly half of everyone killed in Gaza is under 18.
It's almost like Israel's plan is to radicalise Palestinian youths, so more and more grow up to be terrorists with each generation, and they can use the shock doctrine after each attack to kill 10-100x more people, and steal more land, then rinse and repeat until there is no Palestine... Basically genocide with extra steps.
What's fucked up is there's a ridiculously easy fix.
If US and other western goverments told Israel if they seize any land, we stop giving them billions of dollars a year, Israel would stop annexing land. Which would likely mean they stop instigating Hamas. They'd have nothing to gain anymore. They'd finally have motivation for the conflict to end.
They're fine starting wars right now, because they have so much money to burn on "defense" and they know if any actual countries try to help Palestine, then Israel can (and will) drag the West into it and start WW3.
Even if Palestine is completely erased from the map, there's no reason to think Israel will stop. There's a very good chance they just start doing this to another neighbor next. Which is why literally all of Israels neighbors hate them.
What is even more fucked up is that USA has zero interest in “fixing” the Middle East.
It should be obvious by now that the only interest USA has in the Middle East is the hoarding of resources.
They want the Middle East to be destabilized so they can continue hoarding wealth. It’s the whole reason they prop up Israel so the fighting and wars continue.
There are no ethics here.
Not just the US. All the players have agreed on this, including all the Arab countries and Isralei hardliners and Hamas (who are the closest of partners) and US and Europe, etc.
Don't kid yourself that it's just the US.
There’s truths and lack of understanding in your comment. Israel doesn’t want that land. They left that land. They don’t settle in that land. It has nothing to do with why hamas hates them. Israel has settlements in the West Bank and I agree that the USA should hold Israel responsible for not expanding settlements there but the issues with Gaza and Hamas are very different than the issues in the West Bank.
Hamas just wants to kill Israelis no matter the cost. Hamas is mostly a Gaza thing. Not a West Bank thing. NO peace is possible between two parties when one continually shows the desire to eradicate the other. Israel doesn’t want to erase Gaza (or at least hasn’t in the past). They have the ability to and could have done it whenever they wanted. They actively put effort to not eradicate them. They may not treat Gaza well but it’s obvious they aren't trying to kill them by the fact that they are still there.
Using this same logic, Hamas must not want Israel gone; because they are still there
……no. I think it’s pretty clear which side has the ability to decimate the other
Hamas and Netanyahu are partners and have always been. Neither wants peace. If they did, then Hamas would not have used the suicide bombings and bus bombings to get Netanyahu elected by less than 1%.
And had that happen, Perez would have won, and chances of a 2 state were extremely high (befoee Arafat walked away).
So yes, Hamas put Netanyahu in power, and he has ensured they stay in power. Otherwise, it's highly probably there'd be a two state solution from the Oslo accords in place now.
”they may not treat Gaza well” Understatement of the century “But it’s obvious they aren’t trying to kill them” But they are…
You're forgetting that a lot of people in the West want WW3.
Fundamentalist Christians making the Apocalypse, Military Industry making money. etc.
But the hate you're wrong about. The hate goes back 4,000 years.
Mark my words, in 50 years, it will be Jordan, Egypt or Lebanon. Maybe even all three. Once the Palestinian genocide is completed they will start to push boundaries in the name of safety and national security. With US support there's nothing stopping them as long as Zionists stay in power and move slow enough, they only have to kill more people than the population replacement rate. And in a century or two they won't even have to pretend and just straight up annex their neighbors. A million things can happen within here and there, but it's crazy to think that this strategy was devised in the XIX century and it seems to be working.
You do realize those countries have attacked and attempted to destroy Isreal before? Have you ever studied any history?
Yes, I have, and yes I'm aware. What's your point?
Or imagine if any of the Arab countries were willing to take refugees and not force them to stay there like they have for decades? It's a huge benefit and asset to them to have people they can pretend to care about but have never done shit to help.
People who have the right to defend themselves:
West Bank Palestinians being ethnic cleansed from their homes by far-right Jewish settlers and the Israeli army? ❌
Isreal when it deliberately starves 2.3 million people? ✅
Zionism is religious nationalism.
They can all burn in hell.
*religious zionism
Zionism is literally just nationalism for the jewish people. The fact that it has a religious brother is because the world decided that a race and a religion are linked. Do all jews want to be jews? No. Can they stop? No. Do all Israelis support religious zionism (which means taking land)? No. Even most of them don't. Their government and politics are just so fucked up that we have a result of religious zionists running the state. Let's pray that after this war they'll get their shit together.
Wrong. Zionism is the belief that Jewish people belong in the land of Israel.
Your one sided condemnation of war crimes is noted and undermines the value of your opinion severely.
Definitely fuck Israeli war crimes, definitely fuck Hamas ones, or maybe even the constant ones across the world that you don't care about like in African countries, or Haiti, etc.
fuck slave holders" "Your failure to condemn nat turner undermines the value of your opinion"
Yeah what Hamas did was awful and horrific, I agree. But it's not fair to expect everyone to always go around condemning them in discussions of Israeli war crimes.
If you were in the US and OPEC decided it was no longer selling gas to the USA. And China was like, you deserve it because those White Power Nazis are trying to overthrow the government.
And the punishment for this was killing 5% of all USA babies.
Not only would you lose your minds. You'd think there was no justice in the world.
For those wondering, this 2000 figure comes from... The Gaza ministry of health (specifically, a nonprofit citing the ministry of health), notable for fabricating a hospital bombing just last week where supposedly 500-870 people died (which is also turning out to almost certainly be a lie)
The Gaza ministry of health (specifically, a nonprofit citing the ministry of health), notable for fabricating a hospital bombing just last week where supposedly 500-870 people died (which is also turning out to almost certainly be a lie)
What? While the number of casualties is certainly dubious, the bombing was not fabricated. There were many families taking "shelter" (if you can call it that) in the hospital's parking lot.
Wasn't it a failed rocket by a separate terrorist group?
I thought the initial claims by Israel was that Hamas bombed their own (on purpose) while Hamas blamed Israel initially. Or did I get my info wrong?
The reports indicate the rocket was launched by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a more extremist group seperate from Hamas, but who's basically Hamas with much less power and effectiveness (they fail a lot). It's true that Hamas blamed Israel, and that Israel showed satellite images indicating it's a failed rocket from PIJ. Photos also show that it mainly hurt the parking lot (and without a crater, typical of Israeli ammunition) which means for 500 to be dead, there'd need to be a lot of people in that parking lot for some reason.
Basically Hamas lied. But they're a terrorist organization, every chance of shock and terror is a win for them.
Reports (Doppler sound analysis and crater analysis) show that it came from the direction of Israel. There isn't any video of a rocket turning around so idk how it could have been a pij rocket.
Both sides are doing a lot of lying tho, we need an independent investigation on the ground there to really figure out what happened, but Israel opposed that.
There's a lot of bots out there downvoting truth and reason. And if you think it's bad on this issue, wait till the US election. We are all fucked.
All Hamas have to do is free all the hostages.
All Israel has to do is allow more than 34 trucks to cross the border from Egypt.
Oh so if they allow trucks the fighting stop? Oh please. Hamas hasn't stopped launching rockets since day 1. And if you think their preparation ended in a day, you're terribly mistaken. There's no chance for peace in the region now.
Some countries just cannot behave.
Israel is more of a colony than a country.
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