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[-] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Here is a scenario that is terrifyingly likely. To control the Strait of Hormuz, the U.S. really needs to take Kharg Island. It doesn't seem like that big of a deal, because the U.S. has the military power to do so. However, holding the island will require a continuous U.S. presence, including troops and keeping them resupplied. The importance of the island in controlling the Strait and the blockade of Iran makes this a critical strategic loss for Iran that it cannot accept, so you can be 100% certain that Iran will throw everything it can at making the invaders regret their efforts. The island is just off the coast of Iran, making it relatively easy for Iran to attack. Inevitably, their drones or missile strikes will have some success. Perhaps sinking a high value U.S. ship, killing many and embarrassing Trump. Trump, a raging narcissist that has long been itching to use the nukes, will see this embarrassment as an excuse to show the world that the U.S. "will not be pushed around", and order the use of nukes. Having cleared the sane people from military leadership, replacing them with his handpicked loyalists, they will do it. Ironically, this will be the end of the U.S. as we know it. To the extent the world's leadership has been willing to tolerate Trump and the belligerent U.S., it will open eyes and turn the world completely against the U.S.. I hope this scenario doesn't come to pass, but the odds of a nuclear attack happening are far greater than at any time prior in my lifetime.

[-] Akasazh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Also that scenario weird require boots on the ground and soldiers in caskets, not the look that Trump is aiming for.

soldiers in caskets

Don't you mean losers and suckers in caskets?

He has made it abundantly clear he gives zero fucks about soldiers.

[-] Akasazh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah he doesn't care about the soldiers, but he cares about how it makes him look.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Having cleared the sane people from military leadership, replacing them with his handpicked loyalists, they will do it. Ironically, this will be the end of the U.S. as we know it.

That could be the end of the world as we know it.

And I feel fiiiiine 🎶

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 1 week ago

To the extent the world’s leadership has been willing to tolerate Trump and the belligerent U.S., it will open eyes and turn the world completely against the U.S…

This already happened. The world's leadership only tolerates Trump as much as necessary. You can't kick someone out of NATO. Using atomic bomb may speed some things up but will not cause a dramatic shift in how other countries treat US.

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

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[-] RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Storage efficient memes, me likey

[-] NM_Gringo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

What would happen if we just pulled out of the middle east? Closed all but one or two bases, pull our ships back, stop throwing our military weight around and stop interfering in their affairs? I know, radical. What's the downside I'm not thinking of?

[-] Dryad@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

47 would have to eat some humble pie and he’s deathly allergic.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Sounds like a win win.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago

Oil industry profits would fall. And they're the ones paying bribes

[-] ContactClosure@lemmus.org 8 points 1 week ago

Slightly less yacht money for the oil tycoons. Unacceptable!

[-] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

The ego of the empire will be hurt

[-] panthera_@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

This is the proposal that should be offered to Iran. Iran will be permitted to pursue its nuclear program as long as it's for peaceful purposes. Iran will be strictly monitored for compliance. Any violation will result in invasion by the US, Europe, and any other nations willing to join in. The Strait of Hormuz will be opened without tolls. Israel would be required to leave Lebanon. If Iran agrees to the proposal, all sanctions will be immediately lifted.

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Why would Iran accept that?

[-] panthera_@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

It saves face since Iran has always said its nuclear program is only for peaceful purposes, its economy will be boosted since all sanctions would be immediately lifted, and Israel would have to leave Lebanon, something which Iran demanded.

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Iran can't trust the US nor Israel. So there will never be an agreement or deal to end this conflict. Iran is in the process of removing the USA from the region. So they have no reason to actually deal with the US. Israel

The board is getting shaken. Once all the pieces land, it's possible that US sanctions will no longer carry as much weight--authority, enforceability, broad participation

[-] panthera_@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

An agreement could be reached between Iran and Europe, China, and Russia. This would end the conflict.

[-] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

So... the way it was before trump got involved, except israel has to behave? Iran might agree to that, they did before, but israel won't.

[-] panthera_@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

Israel would have no choice. If it rejects the proposal, there would be sanctions.

this post was submitted on 15 Jul 2026
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