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[-] Strider@lemmy.world 161 points 3 weeks ago

I can just shake my head and say that humanity won't make it. We are so obsessed with stealing things from others but making sure our offer is not stolen it's insane.

Instead of really working together, which we are in dire need of currently.

[-] 712@discuss.tchncs.de 66 points 3 weeks ago

Not all of us. Just a few actually. But not playing fair will always give them an advantage.

[-] applebusch 7 points 3 weeks ago

thats what they want you to believe so you dont enact some grade A consequences. cant benefit from cheating if theyre dead.

[-] basic_user@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Well said, sadly

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 34 points 3 weeks ago

That's not what steganography is. There is no hidden message here.

[-] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 46 points 3 weeks ago

Your assertion baffles me. The CC client is sending information about its execution context back to Anthropic HQ in a sneaky, obfuscated way that most people wouldn't notice.

If that's not a hidden message, if that's not steganography, what is?

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's not sending it back. It's essentially watermarking the output, so that it can be identified if it appears somewhere unexpected.

[-] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago

It modifies the prompt, aka the input, not the output. It is smuggling 3 bits of secret user/session data in a wrapper that doesn't look like it contains that data. As the article explains:

So the marker becomes part of the system context sent to the model.

This is a normal timestamp on a prompt:

Today's date is 2026-07-11.

But if your system timezone is a Chinese mainland timezone, it looks like:

Today's date is 2026/07/11.

Then, if your base URL includes a keyword like "deepseek," it silently replaces the apostrophe from a ' to a ʼ:

Todayʼs date is 2026-07-11.

Or if the base URL has one of the domains on the list, like any .cn domain, it replaces the apostrophe with another apostrophe character:

Today’s date is 2026-07-11.

And if it has both a URL and a keyword on the watchlist, the prompt context includes:

Todayʹs date is 2026-07-11

That's 3 bits of information: does this system have a mainland Chinese time zone, does the base URL contain a known keyword (associated with Chinese AI competitors) or a known domain (associated with mainland China or its major tech companies). And it sneaks it on by without making it obvious.

That's steganography.

[-] QuizzaciousOtter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

Did you read the post?

the marker becomes part of the system context sent to the model. (Where Anthropic probably parses in their backend)

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I thought steganography was hiding messages in images.

Ok I just looked it up, apparently it can be anything. Images, audio, video, or even text.

I remember I had this Perl module once that would convert passwords into a binary string and then convert that string into spaces and tabs. Looked like a blank file. I guess that was technically steganography.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago

No, that's encoding. If you hid that message inside another message, that would be steganography.

[-] jungle@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

What a stupid take, and entirely AI written to boot.

Of course Anthropic wants to detect if they are getting distilled.

And of course they need to do that covertly. Does the "author" of this article expect them to tell attackers how to hide? Really?

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 weeks ago

When did nerds get so spoiled and entitled? Was it when every parent on America sent their little snot nosed video game playing asshole to college so he could “be the next bill gates”?

The current “AI boom” is the first settler-colonial project of knowledge and it must be treated as such.

[-] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah the author really thought he was onto something here lol. Surprise, it’s absolutely nothing.

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