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submitted 1 week ago by Sunshine@piefed.ca to c/linuxphones@lemmy.ca

Pay the $25 ransom little devs or else!

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[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 121 points 1 week ago
[-] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 66 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I really want Linux phones to catch on, but even watching demos, while they are making progress, it seems like they are still very far behind.

A phone for me (and many others) is more a lifestyle utility than a tech gadget, so reliability and compatibility is paramount. Things need to just work the first time every time for me to trust relying on it for important things.

I still follow the development of some projects and contribute when I can, but it doesn’t look like it’ll be a realistic option (for my use case at least) any time soon.

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[-] 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Speaking of, the first waves of the new Jolla phone (with sailfish os) are apparently coming out now. I haven"t seen any posts about it on Lemmy yet, just an unboxing vid on YouTube

[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 23 points 1 week ago

Literally the only one I like but I live in Hell and they don't seem to do too well with the carriers over here. Some of them are crazy, lwanting like nearly 2k, ain't happenin' chief.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

Sailfish has been around since 2013. Hopefully the hardware is good 🤞

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[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 104 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For those who have the means, please consider donating to PostmarketOS, which has been slowly but surely pushing forward pure linux support for phones, and is the best longterm solution we have to completely circumvent Google and reclaim our hardware permenantly.

[-] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 95 points 1 week ago

F-Droid is way more trustworthy than google pay.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Or Google Play, for that matter!

(I don't really care because I find the idea of hooking your credit cards to a third party to pay with your phone creepy to begin with, but are there any non-Google-Pay alternatives for GrapheneOS or Linux phones?)

[-] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

I think it was a play on words

...or pay for that matter.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I understand wordp(l)ay, I swear! 😅

Unfortunately, theirs had a namespace collision with a separate actual product, so I decided to riff on that instead.

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[-] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

Google claims the google playstore is safe and the only way to avoid malware. Ironically it was like 65-70% of all malware on android came from the playstore.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 80 points 1 week ago

The dumb part is that this won't even solve the problem. It will be trivially easy to get dev certificates through a shell company. Anyone who is making money off scamware will have no trouble standing up LLCs faster than Google can ban them.

[-] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago

You still think it's about security while it always has been about control.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

What does Google care? They're making money off of it now.

[-] Inesophet@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

I didnt care really about switching OS's, but i do start to care when a fucking company gets abusive. Not only that. I get spiteful and petty. And that generally supplies enough fuel to get me through the pains of moving to a new system quite well.

When Windows 7 was discontinued, i used linux. Now im still using linux, outside of some work i did a couple of years back, none of my devices run windows.

Btw, i baught (with money!) Windows since 3.11 (Windows 3.11 - Win 98 - Win 2000 - WinXP - Win 7)

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

I mean - how many of us are here because we got spiteful and petty over reddit API shit?

[-] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sounds like a boon for other projects like Graphene, Postmarket, Lineage, Ubuntu Touch, etc

Make sure to donate and I hope the devs switch gears and leave Google behind.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 31 points 1 week ago

It's why there's already talk that recaptcha only works with approved phones to lock out alternatives.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

please drink verification can

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

Yeah, this shit has me moving to Graphene soon.

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[-] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I just want to know what is going to my fdroid apps when this comes in. Will they all get binned? Disabled? Just fail to load until I jump through the new "untrusted" sources hoops?

What gets me is that upstream linux has had this solved by trusting repo keys for years, why not let the end user be the trust arbiter

[-] Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 week ago

Because you're not the end user, you're the product.

[-] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 11 points 1 week ago

yes that is the cynical take, and I mostly agree, but installed apks list their install source, so if that information is there, then its simple to give the user the ability to mark said source as trusted. But to do this under the guise of security, when there is more malware on play than fdroid is such a head scratcher

[-] illi@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

Yoy described the current solution I believe.

The more hoops they put in place to jump through, the less people would consider going outside Google Play. And the more control Google has on the ecosystem.

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There will never be progress so long as device owners cannot unlock the bootloaders on their phones.

[-] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

That's a law/regulation id love to see

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[-] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Here's the plan:

  1. Normal Cellphone
  2. Kobo
  3. MP3 player
  4. Thinkpad
  5. A Faraday bag

1 will make calls, texts, pay parking fees, let me into concerts and call 911, and nothing else

2 will allow me to continue to read anticapitalist books without being tracked

3 will allow me to continue listening to anticapitalist music without being tracked

4 will allow me to continue discussions about how shit capitalism is with my fellow scorned and continue saying Trump is a pedo and 8647 when I feel like tossing more darts at his mental image, use XMPP, IRC, TOR, Ygg, you know, the gang.

5 will allow me to ditch the fascists when I'm done playing the part of a normal citizen on a daily basis.

[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

first results on a quick search for phones that allow bootloader unlocking.

Hopefully, all of the devs, (or at the very least, most of the them) move over to help speed up and improve the alternative OS's

It would be a beautiful kick in the face to Google if there a relatively quick mass migration from Android to any or all of those.

https://www.howtogeek.com/buy-these-brands-if-you-truly-want-to-own-your-phone/

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[-] vantablack 9 points 1 week ago

30/9/2026

there aren't 30 months in a year...

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 14 points 1 week ago

American entitlement shows up again

[-] vantablack 10 points 1 week ago

should've put a /s at the end

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[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Don't you just hit that option to allow APKs that takes 24 hours to go through?

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I can't wait to be interested in an app, and have to wait an entire 24 hours to install it on my own computer

At least until google removes that option as well

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