It’s crazy to me that people ever thought brave was “privacy focused” when it was clear that they were trying to jump on the crypto bandwagon with their own in-network crypto and ad network. It was always just a reskinned chrome with ublock built in and then their crypto and ad network tacked on top

Firefox is great.

I'm team Firefox, very happy here. There's a small amount of optional telemetry to disable to maximise your privacy, and it has the best plugins because there's a lot of choice and they're not purposely crippled.

Firefox and Mull (a Firefox fork) have your privacy in mind. They work as good as Chrome and don't fuck you without asking.

Firefox is the least sucky.

Vivaldi is a good Chrome replacement.

Floorp is my favorite Firefox fork!

But what's wrong with non Chrome Chromium based browsers?

(Just give me downvotes, I don't care if my question is stupid)

Because it's Brave and people like to jump on bandwagons. This is like the 6th time I've seen this article posted in lemmybin also.

And since we have the reddit-minded folk here, no, I do not support Brave and never will and I would much rather they disappear from the internet, but using ragebait to complain about the browser installing the necessary files to have one of their advertised services working, like pretty much every other software does, is not the way to move forward.

Yea i don’t get the hate boner for brave. I get it's sketchy and don’t use it myself, but they aren’t sneakily installing some VPN to redirect all your web traffic without you knowing. They tell you about it right up front because it's a service they want to sell.

If you don’t like the browser, don’t use it. There isn’t a need to go on some crusade to smear them with bullshit.

Probably because nobody cares about Opera doing that since the ones pointing this out are at least privacy aware people that won't use Opera. It is also a problem when Brave does it because it is a "privacy focused" browser. They sure have the balls to do this.

Brave browser has been automatically installing VPN services on Windows computers without user consent, but it remains inactive unless the user subscribes.

They're installing extra software that's useless unless you give them money. Plus you really want to be aware of your VPN since all your traffic will be going through it.

Because a vpn can monitor all the websites that you visit. Not directly what you're looking at, but definitely where you're looking. Just line your provider can, if you're not using a vpn. But at least with your provider, you have a contract with them - you pay them to transport your data and nothing more. Some very scummy providers aside, that's where it stops.

A free vpn, however, needs to pay for transporting your data somehow. And if you're not paying for it with money, then who/what is?

See also Tom Scott's explanation about vpns, why you probably don't need one, and why he refused their advertisement money.

It's "all your mail is now redirected to a third party that makes money by mining it for data without you knowing" level of nastiness. Absolutely deplorable and a reason to never touch anything made by the people behind Brave even with a ten foot pole. Brave is a scam and why people pretend its not is beyond me.