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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by favrion@lemmy.world to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

Like if they die with braces, a metal retainer, earrings, a gold tooth, a pacemaker, et cetera.

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[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 109 points 2 years ago

The metal doesn't change. It's still there since it doesn't rely on the host living for existence.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

I love how you get downvoted. The fuck is wrong with people here? So much better than Reddit blablabla and then this bullshit happens so often. Why do people always have to suck so hard?

[-] Nawor3565 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Because the person you replied to is acting purposely obtuse? It's clear that the OP was asking what is done with any non-organic materials that may be inside a person when they die. Are they removed? Are they left to be buried in the ground? What about cremation, do they burn the body with any of that inside? That's pretty obvious to anyone with above a 5th grade reading comprehension, so a snarky reply is unwarranted and obnoxious.

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

I was being a bit obtuse, but the question was worded poorly. If OP wanted to know what happens after cremation, or an autopsy, or something else like that, they should have clarified. You yourself literally came up three additional questions, all of which might apply to the original question. I just decided to answer it literally.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Thank you, exactly my point:

Nothing is clear about what OP meant. It is a very vague question. Yet here we are, you are super confident about what exactly was meant.

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

The real question is why does anyone care if a comment on a comment gets down voted. This isn't reddit where they track your karma. So who cares. Probably 30% of comments here are "why are people downvoting you" and comments like "i love all the blahblah haters commenting here, people are so fucked up" which by the time anyone reads it, the haters have been long since drowned out by the rational people. Sad waste.

[-] XbSuper@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Why would anyone care? Because it ruins discussion.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It is a mirror of the community here. Not more and not less.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

What is wrong with people here?

I would venture to say most Lemmy users were formerly Redditors. That would likely explain the behaviour you and I see.

[-] Lober@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 2 years ago

By this point, Phase II will initiate as the metal bits reorganize themselves into a lining along your spine. They will take over control of your corpse for the following months, synthetically reanimating you. Nothing can stop your flesh from discolouring and rotting slowly, however. Eventually, the metal ennards will absolve themselves of your flesh vessel as it no longer suits their purposes, and control is returned to you once more; although your skin may by this point have discoloured into a shade of purple.

[-] TheYear2525@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Before the human begins to decompose, the essence of the pacemaker leaves its plastic housing (the “accidental properties” of the device) and goes to a realm outside of space and time to forever keep the pace of the Great Heart for which it was ultimately created. The human, meanwhile, is eaten by worms.

[-] Izzgo@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

That's a delightful answer. My wife, who got a pacemaker this past spring, laughed out loud. Thank you!

[-] AlysonFaithGames@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

So a pacemaker will keep going even if the person no longer has brain activity. So a strong magnet is swiped over the chest to turn it off. Not sure what they do with it after that, though

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 2 years ago

It's this kind of irresponsibility that leads to a zombie apocalypse.

[-] bappity@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I believe they have to remove it before burying/cremating them

[-] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My grandfather died with a bullet in his foot that had been there for about 40 years. He was cremated and there was nothing left of the bullet.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 16 points 2 years ago

In cremation, the metal is picked up either by hand or magnets and recycled. This is because the bones need to be grinded into "ashes" and they can't do that with metal in it.

[-] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 14 points 2 years ago

Lead melts at such a low temperature that it will vaporize long before the body is reduced to ash.

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

I didn't believe you. So I looked it up. I had no idea how hot cremation was. What a waste of energy.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago

I learned this listening to true crime podcasts. Killers often try to burn bodies but it doesn't work because you need an actual furnace to reduce a body down to ash.

[-] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

There's an episode of Nathan For You where he tries to test if a pizza oven will cremate a body but he gave up after a few hours lol

[-] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 7 points 2 years ago

It can be seen that way. Neil deGrasse Tyson agrees with you. OTOH, it’s a way to conserve cemetery space and reduce the environmental impact of graveyards.

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

Sure, but cremation isn't the only other alternative.

[-] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Blast my body out into the ocean and let the fish eat me

Or, I like the idea of becoming a tree, where they put you in a bag beneath a tree and plant it so the roots will absorb.. whatever is left that they possibly can, I think that's the coolest (imo) way to go and would like to somehow become a tree.. don't want to be reincarnated as an animal, nature is brutal.

Cat maybe...

[-] pg_sax_i_frage@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

*... I think that’s the coolest (imo) way to go and would like to somehow become a tree… "

trees. are. cool.( literally a and metaphorically.). Having your posymoryem body, turned into a tree, is a relly cool option, in my opinion. Good thing is that a it's pretty widely avalable and doable too, in many places. 💀🌱 🌳 🌳🌲🌳🌲🌲🌱

Heres some resources that might be helpful with planning for that tree, aka green or natural, burial, ahead of time (and ensuring that thise wishes are carried out later) , if you haven't allready: https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/green-burial/ and https://www.greenburialcouncil.org/interactive-maps.html

and to metión green burials in another jurisdiction, , http://www.naturaldeath.org.uk/index.php?page=find-a-natural-burial-site

Hopefully some of that may be helpful, or intresting. green. burials. subject.

💀🌱🌳 🌳🌲🌳🌲🌲🌱

[-] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks for sharing a branch from your knowledge tree!

That was a (bad) pun, tr-hee hee!

But really, I can't wait to become a tree so I can throw apples at tin people.

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[-] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

That's what we thought, but when we asked to keep the bullet we were told it was reduced to ash with everything else.

Not a full answer, but some interesting info about metals and cremation https://collier-law.com/blog/cremation-what-happens-to-the-metals-in-your-body/

[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Where I live, removeable items like braces, jewellery, et cetera are considered 'personal effects' and will be handed over to next of kin when they claim the body for funeral arrangements. Integral things like fillings, artificial joints, etc. are generally left inside. There are cases where they have to be removed or will be left behind (eg. cremation), but they're still considered human remains and have to be disposed of properly.

There are also cases where things can't be cremated or left in the body. I'm thinking specifically about pacemakers powered by radioactive isotopes. Medical authorities will take charge of those.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Humans from Scadrial who die with enough metal in them may become ghosts

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

What can corrode will corrode.

Gold or the peacemaker will not. They will only ever be destroyed / dissolved / ... in geological timescales. So when that part of the crust is pushed under another one. Or it is erroded away in a river. Or hot, geothermal water dissolves it. Etc.

Otherwise it will stay put and not change.

[-] big_bee@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Depends on whether or not they know Jesus. If they know Him they go to heaven.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Unless they are a wizard, in which case Death himself must escort them to the next plane and can't just send a representative.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 years ago

It was the day my grandmother exploded.

[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

They get a Viking funeral

[-] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Not reallly and answer, but there is a Stephen King short story and movie where a plane goes thru a time warp, and only the people who are asleep survive. The other people are gone entirely, except for the metal things they were wearing or had in them.

It's a good one!

[-] favrion@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'm sorry, but 763 pages is epic territory.

[-] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Indeed it is! I apologize for leaving this out, it is just the first of the four short stories; The Langoliers. Much shorter!

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