This is continuing an act of genocide against the Uyghurs.
and other minorities
Source: CNN, aka, Fox News II but a bit more serious. They are the same sources that denied the genocide in Gaza for so long, and are still trying to gaslight us about it. Both trying to win Trump's and half of America's approval, people who hate China unconditionally, not just the government, but the people too, unfairly, after being conditioned by movies, shows and videogames like Fallout that paint China as "always malicious, plotting something against us in secret..."
After America proved to have a critical amount of influence over Taiwan, I don't blame China for wanting to integrate most ethnic groups into one, so they don't get influenced or taken over by foreign actors ran by Jeffrey Epstein Class members like the USA or Europe. It's the same thing I feel about my country Mexico; there are so many MAGAs here thanks to republican messages bleeding in indiscriminately. I don't want "republican culture" nonsense touching my country. It sucks. I can't imagine the hatred a lot of Chinese felt when USA tried to tell them what is best for Taiwan. If USA tried to do the same with say, Yucatán or Cancún, I'd vote for more desperate measures like forcing them both to integrate into Mexican culture ASAP, before they get rotten by "American culture" which is racist as hell. I think we should be doing something like that already: get rid of absolutely all American Republicans here before they spread their bigotry. Shit is contagious.
China is at least doing it with diplomacy, unlike America, Europe or Spain, which pretty much eradicated most of the indigenous cultures here in the entire continent of America. Currently killing LGBTQ culture too, still bullying transexuals to death, or taking certain rights away from them, like taking away their specialized support in the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline so they die more easily or disassociate overtime (I'm glad it's failing, though).
You made me go and read the content of the Ethnic Unity and Progress Promotion Law, and there's nothing in it that promoted genocide or killing. It contains clauses like:
"It obligates the government to support 'inter-embedded community environments' so that ethnic groups can 'live, study, build, share, work, and enjoy together'." "It mandates internet service providers to promptly stop the transmission of 'information containing ethnic hatred, ethnic discrimination, or other content that undermines ethnic unity and progress.'" (better than doing it on behalf of only Elon Musk and Epstein like Reddit did) "It vows to support the standardization, digitization, and preservation of minority texts." ...
I don't trust any government, I'm sure there are flaws and people in power who will not respect it like most boomers in power today are not allowing Marijuana in Mexico to be sold at all even after being legalized 2 years ago. Cops with rancor who won't leave you alone if you decide to plant Marijuana at your home, even if legal. So many people here avoid paying the minimum wage properly or in time, and get away with it too. There's also the Narco thriving and all that, because the law is weak and America keeps giving them guns to kill us with, which is also killing our culture slowly but effectively; it is stagnating it with stress, pain and hopelessness. 30,000+ Mexicans die every year just to fulfill USA's whims. We don't have that many companies dedicated to making videogames, or are as proficient in technology because people die young here, it is very difficult to focus on difficult disciplines like physics, math, chemistry, etc when the entire country is constantly on fire, you have no liberty to go outside in peace, are in constant fear... Bad economy, bad nutrition, bad experiences trying to learn, so much mental fog, so much fatigue, so much pain, this is what the USA brings forth. And they're now filling our country with immigrants, "ex-pats" that provoke a raise in prices around them, which slowly and silently displaces the poorest groups here; people who die to poverty and you never hear about them or what they had to said because they never received the chance to read more or learn more. They become another number and that's it. You just saw that "30,000 lives lost every year" and it doesn't really impact you as it should. It's a lot of wasted potential, lost to homicides caused by some capitalistic greedy pigs. I don't hear about shit like this happening in most other countries, it's mostly USA and Mexico, losing 20,000+ and 30,000+ people everyday to senseless violence that shouldn't be there in the first place.
China has its issues too, they are 4x times the size of USA after all. Organizing such a massive country is difficult, but you should learn from them. USA only has 335 million people and it's already on the risk of extinction just 250 years later after being born. China is what? 5,000 years and still going strong? That's embarrassing. The so-called "#1 country in the world" is losing against countries they deemed inferior for so long like China or India. What was the point of the war on Iran, if like other 7 countries have multiple nukes, like India, Pakistan, China, North Korea and France, countries that are increasingly disgusted by the USA every day. The big blonde bully USA only has tiny angry Israel to back it up in the playfield, lol.
This whole "China is super evil" trend feels so forced, so fake, so exaggerated, I can't trust any Western media anymore. They are the same sources that denied the genocide in Gaza for so long, and are still trying to gaslight us about it. CNN and Fox News. All of a sudden, you trust them blindly with this? You sound like Trump whenever you talk about China. It's almost as if they're doing this to give Americans something to cope with. So Americans don't feel too lonely when they are called terrorists or genocide monsters online for what they are doing in the Middle East with their taxes. They can go and rely on whataboutism and bring up China to try and make it seem like there are "worse monsters out there," but nah, nothing will beat America in evildoing anymore, that should just be left very clear already. American Exceptionalism needs to go.
It’s pathetic the mental gymnastics people will perform to justify a genocidal state’s actions just because they like the flavor of their authoritarianism.
No, requiring Mandarin classes in schools so they have some economic opportunities in life is not an act of genocide kiddo.
Same logic as residential schools in Canada to give native Americans an opportunity by teaching them English...
Except Canada didn't, at the time, forcibly teach the local Tribe's culture as a mandatory part of the curriculum. This law requires it (as does the specific regional laws before it in starting in 2018). The only thing this law does is take the pilot program from Xinjiang and make it nation-wide, allowing all of the poorer rural regions to be taught Mandarin and basic Chinese history alongside their local cultural studies and local language, both of which have been required longer than you've hated China for allegedly doing the opposite.
Yes I know I've read your other comments. It's the same logic though which is undeniable... The Canadians used exactly the same justifications for setting up the residential schools in the first place to "solve the aboriginal problem" as they saw it. An eerie parallel to China's domestic "every other culture except Han problem" that they're solving with this.
This method is tried and true across the world and its exactly how you stamp out other languages and dilute or destroy culture whether that's the goal or not, just as a consequence of teaching the lingua franca.
The French academy is a good example. Thousands of dialects disappeared because of being required to learn "proper French" as the academy saw it. It worked, which is why there's far less variation in accents and spelling across France than the UK which took a more organic approach, inadvertently preserving some of the local accents even if the English accidentally wiped out existing dialects due to incentives surrounding employment, along with rail, telegraphy, schooling, and urbanization.
Wiping out competing dialects and cultures is a consequence of industrialization and consolidating the land you have.
Edit: more context and parallels between the residential schools and China's policy.
Trying to eradicate a people's culture is absolutely a form of genocide kiddo.
Requiring that people's culture be taught in schools is erasing it?
Maybe my English has degraded but that sounds like the exact opposite kiddo.
True but when you add in the sexual violence, the forced sterilization, the sexual violence and the mass murder it starts to look pretty damning.
Notice how I didn’t have to call you kiddo because my argument stand up for itself?
Okay, just look into what the US and Canada did with their "cultural education" program for indiginous peoples and tell me this doesn't smell the same.
There is no evidence of genocide of the Uyghurs. Here is an article detailing and debunking the false allegations. https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang?rq=Xinjiang
Unfortunately, you have been fed anti-communist propaganda.
Instead of just reactively downvoting me, actually read the article. It's exceptionally well sourced, and fits all the necessary criteria for good journalism.
Thinking that the CCP is anything but capitalist and imperialist is propaganda.
That article is a joke.
Lmao did you check the sources linked in that article?
➤ 2019 June 18 – BBC’s visit to a vocational center.
Uyghurs are being held captive where they are forced to change, adapt and love the CCP if they are to ever leave.
Genocide is the partial or total destruction of a human group, committed intentionally. The popular view conceives of genocide as the large-scale killing of individuals, but in scholarly and legal fields, genocide occurs when the group itself is targeted. Acts of genocide include killing as well as non-lethal acts such as preventing reproduction among the group, the forcible transfer of children to another group, and cultural genocide.
As someone who lived in China for about 5 years, it's amazing reading people's comments on China that have never been there, but they watch bullshit propaganda tictoks, and think they know what they're talking about.
I'm 43 from the US. For how ridiculously racist the world thinks the US is because they have the most whiney people with victim syndrome (because you know we have free speech and China doesn't), I have heard/seen legitimately 10x more racist shit living in China in 5 years than I've heard over the last 38 years of my life.
There's government messages all over to hate/kill Japanese. They have an amusement park in the south (I forget where) where it's a replica US aircraft carrier you can visit and outside there's an activity where you can stop US tressed dummies with a bayonet.
China thrives on the imbalance of information between itself and the US. They abuse freedom of speech in the US while controlling all media outlets, social sites, and WeChat in their own country.
hate/kill Japanese
Tbf..... That's pretty much all of Asia. That's what happens when you try your best to murder all your neighbors except for the ones you enslave to do either manual labour or be raped for years on end.
The hate for Japan would be like if the Nazi party still existed to a lesser extent and were unapologetic or in denial about their war crimes. The vast majority of their leaders since ww2 have either been war criminals, the children or war criminals, or grandchildren of war criminals.
Define integrate. I live in a country that I wasn't born in. Obviously, I follow the laws, but I don't owe anyone to change my personality. I eat whatever the fuck I want, dress the way I want, etc. I'm allergic to narrow-mindness because it implies low intelligence, among other things
Here's the wiki article on the law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_on_Promoting_Ethnic_Unity_and_Progress.
Some stuff makes sense - like economic modernization of regions with many minorities (especially poor regions), teaching Mandarin in schools so that everyone can speak the majority language, and preserving cultural works and texts of minority groups.
Other stuff seems repressive, like the broad enforcement section, the extremely broad reach of the law into all public and private institutions, legislating what various actors can/can't teach the youth if it might "harm Chinese ethnic unity" which is left pretty vague. Very ethnostate-coded stuff on the whole, not great.
Some sections I thought were noteworthy, taken from wikipedia, shortened with DeepSeek. There is lots more stuff in there.
"Chapter I.... tasks the whole of government and society to achieve these goals, mandating general obligations on a wide range of public and private actors such as ... " [basically all imaginable institutions]
"Chapter II, titled Building a Shared Spiritual Home, lays out the ideological characteristics ... requiring fostering identification with 'the great motherland, the Chinese nation, Chinese culture, the Communist Party of China, and socialism with Chinese characteristics' through patriotic education ... and promotion of 'Chinese cultural symbols and image of the Chinese nation'. It also codifies the predominance of Standard Chinese (Putonghua) in public life ... and requires that Chinese characters be displayed more prominently than minority scripts if both must be used in public."
"It tasks the Ministry of Education and the National Ethnic Affairs Commission in developing textbooks regarding 'the community of the Chinese nation' ... It vows to support the standardization, digitization, and preservation of minority texts. It broadly requires media, internet service providers, families, among others, to promote the CCP's ethnic policy ... while prohibiting them from 'instilling in minors ideas detrimental to ethnic unity and progress'."
"Chapter V and VI concern the enforcement mechanisms ... permits citizens to report conduct that 'undermines ethnic unity and progress' ... Procuratorates may initiate public interest litigation when any such conduct also 'undermines national interests or the public interest'. It generally leaves penalties to be imposed under other applicable laws. It also asserts jurisdiction over foreign organizations and individuals that 'commit acts targeting the PRC that undermine ethnic unity and progress or create ethnic division'.[7] The law empowers the state to pursue those outside of China perceived as undermining notions of ethnic unity."
It's quite standard fascist discourse:
Point to real problem that everybody wants to solve; declare that some policy they want (almost always some kind of racism) is the only solution; do some genocide as the means of implementing the policy.
Tell me again how china is good or better than America? I’ve said this before but American capitalism hasn’t been the answer for decades. And Chinese communism won’t save us either. As a Native American I know all to well about the great American history of treating natives here. And how china has been treating Tibet and Uyghurs is distinguished as well as Taiwan too.
Why does everything need to be compared to the US and why can't both be bad?
Hey, be generous and give .ml some time to write their script at how they treat their minorities better before they respond to you!
I'm from Silesia which is now part of Poland after the WWII. All my grand parents were born in Germany and then the borders moved and the land became polish.
But it's more complicated, because my ancestors were fighting against both the polish and the Germans to make Silesia an independent nation, but they failed. Two of my great grandfathers ended up in concentration camps because of that, one in Auschwitz and another one in Dachau.
When my dad started going to achool he spoke Silesian, a mix of polish and German which was usual there. His parents were called to the principal countless times that they have to do something about it because German was not allowed in school.
When my grandfathers sister who lived in Germany because she fled there - came to visit him they spoke German at the bus station because she didn't speak polish. Someone called the police and my grandfather spent two weeks in jail for this.
When I started to go to school, it was still forbidden to learn German, so I was supposed to learn Russian instead.
My parents finally had the possibility to flee to Germany and only there 1989 we all started to learn the language of our ancestors, two generations later.
Still to this day the polish government is afraid of the separatistst movement in Silesia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_independence
China has the exact same problem as Poland. Before Xi they have been quite relaxed with it. My wife was born into a Korean family in north east China, she didn't speak Chinese until middle school. They had their own identity, Korean schools, Shops, etc, no integration needed.
But separatism is dangerous for countries, it brings a lot of problems, fighting, security concerns, etc. It's just easier and more harmonic if everyone pulls to the same direction. Poland crushed the German identity by constantly putting people into jail and making it impossible to live a normal life and by mixing the rest of the german population who for whatever reason couldn't flee to Germany after WWII. And they did so very successfully I might add. Now Xi is learning from this success and doing the same with their minorities.
While the text of the law doesn't seem especially egregious, we'll have to wait and see how it is enforced. The treatment of minorities by China in the past has been fraught with... well imprisonment, torture, and erasure of their communities. Kind of like the US and Canada, but worse and on a bigger scale.
Probably just more of the same, honestly. My biggest concern is this:
and gives Beijing the right to target people outside of its borders that it believes violate its rules.
So, uh, any Chinese national, anywhere in the world, does something they don't like, they come after you? yeeeeeeah, that's gonna be a No from me, dog.
It bans acts that “undermine ethnic unity or create ethnic division” among China’s 56 officially recognized ethnicities
Lol. Legal protection for minorities framed as a bad thing.
I think you misread the statement you're quoting. Can you elaborate on what your take on it was?
My take was "China is banning acts that undermine a general Chinese Ethnic unity or create Ethnic Division (saying one group is different than another, you know, like a cultural pride or language teaching services in their native dialect would be examples)"
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