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[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 121 points 2 years ago

This is genocide by the book. After almost 2 decades of being kept poor & isolated, comes in an ultra modern army to do exactly what?

I'm German and anti Hamas.

Where's the fight against Hamas taking place, btw? There should be footage of destroyed Hamas stuff or some dead Hamas Soldiers to be seen, or am i missing something?

Israel has been bombarding for days

[-] cozz33@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

Where do you think Hamas is hiding???

[-] los_chill@programming.dev 17 points 2 years ago

"Hiding" doesn't justify killing civilians.

[-] cozz33@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

Above commenter asked where the fight with Hamas is taking place.

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[-] rdri@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think fighting terrorism and warning citizens before bombing is not genocide. Telling citizens they are, in fact, should not run (hamas does that), is closer to genocide.

Actual process of getting rid of terrorists is not exactly something anyone should require to trust someone, but you can check a lot of videos they publish of destroying specific buildings in Gaza.

Be sure to also check the videos of Palestinians killing innocents left and right in Israel. They recorded those themselves.

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[-] detalferous@lemm.ee 42 points 2 years ago
[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago

If Israel's genocidal campaign is actually halted (likely temporarily), the lingering effects of this bombing campaign will continue to claim lives. There will be an increase in premature deaths, at least until Israel decides to complete its final solution. Weapons manufacturers and those who use their products aren't known for "green" initiatives.

[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 2 years ago

Can someone give me the straight talk on why western countries, who usually at least try to look like they have the moral high ground, are falling all over themselves in support of Israel?

What is the non-conspiracy nutter reason why the US feels the need to provide billions of dollars in support to Israel?

Clearly actions on both sides are reprehensible, some more-so than others. There's no goodies and baddies here. There's aggressors, innocents, and victims on all sides.

[-] jmsy@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Hamas are terrorists and Western governments support combatting them. Hamas hides behind civilians who tragically are the victims of the war Hamas started this time

[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 years ago

That's not really an answer though - obviously there's a question of degree.

If there were 20,000 terrorists with access to advanced weaponry then a few hundred civilian casualties is probably acceptable. If there's 100 terrorists with access to some home made rockets then a few thousand civilian casualties probably isn't acceptable.

Is the present campaign against Gaza with the mode of engagement by Israel really the surest path to peace with the least civilian casualties? Hard to believe given that there was a stale mate just a few weeks ago.

Besides which, you can't kill all the terrorists, that's not how extremism works.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Because Israel is ultimately a problem created by western nations like the UK and US, have more similar culture to the west and are their strategic partner for the area whereas the arab nations are traditionally backed by Russia. So they basically HAVE to give them unconditional support to Israel or lose their influence on the region.

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[-] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 9 points 2 years ago

War is about resources. USA and Britain don't give a shit about giving the land (that they stole from Palestinians) to Jewish people. Israel and Saudi Arabia are their only ways to project power in the region to have leverage against countries with more oil.

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[-] resin85@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 years ago

"War isn't Hell. War is war, and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse. There are no innocent bystanders in Hell. War is chock full of them - little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact, except for some of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander." -- MAS*H

[-] nefurious_krankstar@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It seems the only solution to the conflict is the most inhumane, and both sides know this. Maybe the conflict is better than the solution.

[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

Would it be a a final solution of sorts? Sounds familiar

[-] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago

They also unironically have been using "the Palestinian Question"

So damn infuriating

[-] seathru@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago

Maybe the conflict is better than the solution.

Please expound.

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