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In the new blog post, Google’s Matthew Forsythe confirms that the developer verification system is slated to come online on September 30 of this year. The initial deployment will be limited to countries with a high level of app scams: Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand.

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Google released its new developer console back in March, inviting external developers the opportunity to pay $25 and verify their identities early. Developers who don’t register will find that their apps cannot be sideloaded on Google-certified Android devices once verification has rolled out. Google says that almost every app in the Play Store is now ready for the change, and a “large majority” of apps outside Google Play have completed verification.

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Google says it will verify the apps in the following stores when it begins enforcing the new restrictions.

Google (Google Play)
Honor (HONOR App Market)
OPlus (OPPO App Market)
Samsung (Galaxy Store)
Transsion (Palm Store)
vivo (V-Appstore)
Xiaomi (GetApps)

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The next step toward verifying apps will come this month as Google deploys a new system service on most certified devices. The package (com.google.android.verifier) will appear on phones and tablets running Android 8 or higher, allowing Google to block the installation of unverified apps. It will remain dormant until verification is activated in your specific region.

In July, Google plans to roll out the new developer APIs and begin testing for “limited distribution” accounts. This is Google’s solution for hobbyists who want to make their own apps and share them with a small group. Limited accounts won’t require a fee or government ID verification, but you can install these apps on up to 20 devices.

In August, the advanced flow will become available globally ahead of verification becoming mandatory in the first markets. As detailed a few months ago, the advanced flow will allow users to bypass verification, but the process isn’t easy. You’ll have to navigate to a buried menu, confirm you understand the risks multiple times, and wait a whole day before completing the process.

And that brings us to September, when Android devices in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand will begin checking verification status before installing apps. However, things get murky after that. Google will undoubtedly monitor how verification works as millions of users are suddenly limited to verified apps, which could affect how it moves forward. Google says it intends to expand developer verification in 2027, eventually making it a global device policy.

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[-] chunes@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago

And now I'll never be interested in creating software for android. I hope google's LLMs are up to the task.

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 10 points 22 hours ago
[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 11 points 21 hours ago
[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 5 points 20 hours ago

Let's see. I won't ever buy a Pixel. And Motorola is... iffy.

[-] irotsoma 33 points 1 day ago

I hope this leads to the death of Androud and the rise of something more open to replace it. There was a huge market for it when Android came out in competition with Apple's closed model, but now that Google is closing up Android, let's hope alternatives get some attention. Unfortunately, alternatives will mean no tap to pay, no RCS, etc., for a long time, since Apple, Google, et al., turned these things as proprietary as possible, but I'd still like a decent alternative to get enough power to eventually change those things.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 3 points 21 hours ago

Problem is things like corporate banking requires an Android or iOS app. Or a GPU with traffic info. There are problems the lack of anti monopoly laws enforcement.

[-] bagsy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

This is a crazy thought, we could elect people willing to enforce anti monopoly laws that are already on the books.

[-] pucker4676@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

Fantastic idea. As soon as we have that option, that's what I'll do. Until then I suppose I'll watch the two parties full of right wingers ruin everything.

[-] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

An additional sting for some of us -

In Australia, not only is 3G deprecated (I miss my Nokia n91), but 4G / 5G must be of the VoLTE variety. To date, there is no after market OS that is fully VoLTE compatible (Legacy, Graphine etc) here - its hit or miss. Additionally, most (but not all) overseas phones are on IMEI black lists by default.

Essentially, because the OEM are lock step with Google, you can't avoid this issue by purchasing a common phone, unlocking your boot loader (assuming you could in the first place) and flashing CFW. Do that and you can't make phone calls. Don't do it, and you get caught up with this new app verification slop.

They think they're winning... but I think "lol. Keep going. I have a flip phone." As soon as this Samsung dies (adb debloated and all), I'm out entirely.

My Galaxy A20 has been going strong since 2019. If I get anything, I'll either be something from that era or just go full flip phone.

PS: someone mentioned the commodore flipphone. I like Perri and the C64 revival but let's be honest here...the Callback 8020 phone is $$$ for pretty bog standard dumb phone parts. The components don't justify it (barring perhaps the 48MP camera), let alone some of the design decisions.

If you look, I imagine you can find a local equivalent of this instead -

https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/opel-mobile-touchflip-4g-flip-phone-optouchfp

(TTfone or Sunbeam I think?)

With right launcher and larger battery, I find it perfectly cromulent, with very good keyboard. It even runs FUTO voice STT (albeit slowly), my banking apps, Signal, FB messenger, maps, 5MP camera etc. It's not going to replace flagship anything... but maybe it doesn't need to. And it's 1/8th the cost.

There's a good YouTube channel for anyone considering such devices -

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFtVwG0NFd6gT3TXfMCU7oA

[-] Beangut@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

What sort of incompatibilities are present with VoLTE? I've used Graphene for about a year and a half without issue but then again I pretty much only use my phone for calls messages and lemmy

[-] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Yeah, that’s the fun bit. It’s not that Graphene can’t do calls.

It’s that in Australia, post-3G, “works on 4G” is no longer enough. The phone / firmware / carrier combo has to play nicely with VoLTE, IMS provisioning, and 000 emergency calling. If the carrier doesn’t like that exact combo, you can have perfectly good LTE data and still lose service or get nuked by IMEI/TAC filtering.

Graphene on a supported Pixel is probably the best-case scenario. Sadly, that doesn’t generalise to other phones here. It's a dice roll.

TL;DR: VoLTE is carrier-blessed black magic. Same bands, same radio hardware on paper...very different outcomes.

Very cromulent system. Much consumer choice.

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

GrapheneOS is the way to go

[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

I switched a couple months ago and it's been absolutely fantastic

I'm so tired of everything being made shittier all the time and being able to do nothing about it.

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[-] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

Sooo if I just use adb to disable that service

com.google.android.verifier

I wont have to put up with google's bs?

[-] mech@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago

Yes, but forcing all users to do that will kill off 90% of the market for F-Droid.

[-] plutopos@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Installing F-Droid (or anything outside of "official" stores) already gets you a bunch of scary warnings that non-techy users would perceive as "omg malware!!" and withdraw from. I'm confident that the Venn diagram between F-Droid users and people who would be willing to use ADB to keep it is a circle. The real problem is that this cuts off anyone without a computer

[-] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago

That kind of behavior calls hard fork. Fuck off google.

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[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 56 points 2 days ago

May a thousand bricks breach Google HQ's windows.

[-] StellarExtract@lemmy.zip 90 points 2 days ago

Hey Google, could you not dictate what I'm allowed to install on my own damn device for my "safety"? I don't need a third parent, and if I had to pick one it wouldn't be you.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

does anyone know why would anyone use any of the mentioned stores instead of the play store? using f-droid has a clear benefit (they are also not on the supported list). but what is the purpose of those mainly manufacturer specific stores?

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[-] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

Up until now, I haven't been overwhelmingly emotional about all the horrible things happening right now.

I don't know why this news hit me particularly hard. Reading it made me feel like a part of me died. Got glassy eyed. This kind of feels like the final betrayal in a sense. Not the ultimate betrayal, but one super close to my heart.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hey, it's gonna be alright

-You still will be able to sideload apps, they just add a nasty 24-hour cooldown -In the meantime, it's worth having a migration strategy to a mobile OS that actually respects you - be it Graphene, Lineage, or Linux/Sailfish.

[-] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

be it Graphene, Lineage, or Linux/Sailfish.

The prob comes when the ONLY mobile OS that work for the things ppl want to do are IOS and Android. We could see a world where MOST web sites are locked behind chain-of-trust reqs. Certainly all the important ones needed for normal life.

We're not quite there today. But it is the direction.

[-] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Then you cancel that service and let them know exactly why you did. Hit them in the only thing they care about - money. One doesn't matter, but 100k would.

Be the change you want to see.

[-] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

One doesn’t matter, but 100k would.

Yup I agree about that. Financial pressure might be our best hope. Prob is, the HUGE majority of ppl don't care about things like this. Or even know about them. It's too abstract for them.

TBH I'm not sure Google would care about 100k! There are allegedly about 3-4B Android users in the world. 100k would be like 0.0033%. Maybe 100 million, and they would begin to notice. That's a lot to get on side, tho.

I dispair badly. So many ppl have no clue when it comes to their own tech future. Also what is their alternative? IOS is even worse in this way. The masses aren't gonna install Graphene or w/e. What alternative may we even suggest to them?

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