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As Gaza is bombed, EU staff decry chief’s ‘uncontrolled’ support of Israel (www.aljazeera.com)

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[+] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 76 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] SkyeStarfall 57 points 11 months ago

I really don't understand how unanimous and encouraged this support for Israel is. And then we like to think of ourselves as the good guys, and wonder why others hate us.

It's such an obvious wrong thing, and yet it is supported by most. It's completely absurd.

[-] superguy@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

The ruling class supports Israel.

Lots of workers are waking up to the reality that most of the information they're seeing is being manipulated by those in power to maintain power.

[-] probablyaCat@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Well, one side has tried to make peace for decades. The other side is controlled by a group recognized by many countries (including many in the Arab league) as a terrorist organization. The terrorist organization that rejects any attempt at peace agreements. That literally just committed the third biggest terrorist attacks in history.

This is the real world. There are no clear cut good and bad guys. Every person and country does good and bad things. Some do more bad than good, however. It is a crime to be gay in Gaza. They want to make Palestine into an Islamic state. So women likely aren't looking at equal rights.

Just look at their original charter. It's all there. So how is it so clear cut?

[-] livus@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

@probablyaCat there are more than two "sides".

Personally I'm on the side of ordinary civillians, 50% of whom are age 18 and under in Gaza.

I want them to have all their human rights, whether that's about being LGBTQ+, about free access to drinking water and medical aid, or simply about not being murdered by an army.

[-] probablyaCat@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah me too. I want people to just get along.

But when people say absurd shit like just getting along is a solution or that Israel is evil, that Israel should just fuck off, that Israel is a genocidal state, that Israel is just doing this because they are cruel, no different than the nazis, I take issue with that. Or that it is israel's fault that this happened. I take issue with that too.

The situation is fucked. And every war also, unfortunately, involves civilians. But there are currently two groups fighting. One rejects peace, as a basis for their platform. The other is attempting to remove that group from power, which could possibly be better for civilians in both Israel and Gaza. Bad things are happening but both sides are not equal.

[-] Ooops@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well, one side has tried to make peace for decades...

If you start with a lie, everything you try to argue from there is bullshit even if some of it is true.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 17 points 11 months ago

An opportunity for Europe to indulge in a little casual racism while salving its guilt over the holocaust.

[-] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 30 points 11 months ago

I don't want to be a hater but whenever I see that face below a headline I know some terrible news is coming.

[-] Womble@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Real talk, has she ever been in a job where she hasn't failed miserably then been promoted?

[-] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 3 points 11 months ago

Promoted to be removed in the fashion "promoveatur ut amoveatur" do you mean?

[-] Hubi@feddit.de 14 points 11 months ago

In this case being a hater is 100% legitimate.

[-] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Ursula literally went ahead and meet with Israeli officials behind the backs of the other 27 Reps and without their knowledge. Uncontrolled is stating mildly.

It is so outrageous and against protocol' that now I do not know if she is a massive fan or a plant. Perhaps her donors may have appreciated it.

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