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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Nahvi@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

EDIT: It seems that I have may have gotten the wrong impression about the community structure here from the @TheDude comment I listed below. It looks like this should have been posted to The Agora. I appreciate everyone who took the time to respond. Now I must go find fresh air and see if I can find this grass thing that I have heard so much about.

First, let me say thank you for spending your time and money on creating and maintaining this instance.

Second, the name sh.itjust.works is great. It gives me a little half smile every time I type it.

Third, I am hoping this can be my Fediverse home base but I have a single concern.

Now on to the meat:

I have been over on lemmy.world for the last few days and really enjoying the content and experience, but as I was learning more about the Fediverse I realized they have blocked a whole slew of other instances. Most of the reason I have grown to dislike and distrust reddit over the years was because of their random subreddit bans that didn't follow their own rules and processes, so it was a pretty big turn-off for me looking at the lemmy.world Instances List.

When I heard this instance only had two blocked instances, I immediately came here to check it out. I quickly saw like-minded individuals genuinely engaging in reasonable discussion about what should and should not be defederated, so I decided to go ahead and make an account. It didn't take long though before I decided to look into why each of the instances were banned.

It seems like burggit allows simulated CP which is a pretty decent reason for blocking them in my mind. On the other hand, the only thing I could find about lemmygrad.ml was this (https://sh.itjust.works/comment/130474) post that says you blocked it because of your personal convictions.

Given that this instance is your own personal project, I certainly don't fault you for choosing what is acceptable and what is not, but I am concerned about making sh.itjust.works my home base if it is just the start. Based on the previous post it doesn't seem like something you are going to change your mind about, nor do I have an interest in trying to convince you to do so. What I would like to know is if this is going to be a regular thing.

Are you intending to block any instances with political opinions that you are staunchly against? Further, are you planning to create any sort of standard for what kind of instance you are likely or unlikely to ban in the future?

Bonus question for my curiosity: What makes lemmygrad so against your personal convictions? While I have a basic understanding of Marxism/Communism and am aware that current communist countries have a pretty questionable history of violence and suppressing personal and political freedoms, I think an objective viewer might say the same thing about the representative republic that I live in.

tl;dr: Are you going to block other instances for personal reasons? Also, are you going to create any standards to indicate which instances may be blocked in the future?

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[-] carbon_based@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is now @goat doing a "lemmygrad findings" collection here: !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for anyone who is interested in those gems.

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[-] imrichyouknow@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

That instance is full of sympathizers of Mao Zedong, Stalin, they're in favour of a authoritarian regime. If you are in favour of that stance may as well migrate there if you don't believe in the so called free world.

[-] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Go look over lemmygrad.ml and decide on how much you want to argue with passionate communist and tankies everywhere. Lemmygrad.ml will brigade posts and comments on other instances they are allowed on to spread their beliefs and they are not interested in the same happening on their own instance.

[-] Nahvi@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

I don't make a habit out of arguing with people online; experience shows me that it is neither enjoyable, nor productive. I am also not above filtering out communities that I consider irritating. That said, I don't want to be a part of a community that is going to block any voices that are different from their own.

I am just trying to find out what kind of community this is before making it my home base for the foreseeable future.

[-] Max_UL@lemmy.pro 6 points 1 year ago

It’s not about you wanting to argue - they want to argue. When I first got to Lemmy I was “confronted” with shocking commentary basically arguing to me the justification of Russia killing women and children in Ukraine.

Are those your beliefs? Then you know where to find them.

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[-] aspseka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

For example, I don't perceive !latestagecapitalism@lemmygrad.ml as extremist, but rather as insightful. It's the one sub for which I need an alternative account.

[-] TinyPanda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Welp looks like its time to swap instances, admins are damn cops, sure ban the loli shit but defederating with ppl because they hold the same views as a billion+ ppl on the planet is borderline insane

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