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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by tiita@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

youtube getting more aggressive.. i've got firefox and ublock but this shit is still coming up

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[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 295 points 1 year ago

Get Firefox, install uBlock Origin, clear the filter cache, and reload the filter cache.

Worked for me and my dad

It is time to stop the Chrome plauge.

[-] Goodie@lemmy.world 158 points 1 year ago

It's currently working, but every few days youtube will tweak something, and sometime later (minutes to hours) there will be an ublock update for it.

Sometimes you have to wait a little longer, but this is the arms race.

[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 year ago

I find it funny that a company as big as Google is loosing to little ol uBlock

[-] Goodie@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

It's often far easier to attack than defend.

Google has to find and block every way, ublock just has to make a new way to bypass the blocks.

[-] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Classic mantra of cybersecurity. "We've up be right every time, they've to be right only once."

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[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

They're working on a final solution to the ad blocker problem. If they're successful in pushing their Web Environment Integrity API, there's nothing Firefox or ublock will be able to do.

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[-] tiita@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

yep.. i did. they keep coming up, somehow. very annoying.

[-] tyrant@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I switched over to piped.video and no ads. Just moved my subscriptions over. Not sure how long it will last but so far it's good

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[-] Canopyflyer@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago

My family watches several Youtube channels on the main HTPC. It had Chrome for them to use, as that is what the kids and my wife are familiar with from school/ work. Then this BS started. I use Firefox on my personal PC and have yet to have a problem.

So I dumped Chrome off of the HTPC.

It would be amusing if Chrome lost a ton of market share to Firefox and other browsers.

[-] Mereo@lemmy.ca 111 points 1 year ago

It won't. We are an extreme minority who really have the know-how to get around this. The majority will just give in and subscribe.

This is what happened with Netflix. Everyone thought that Netflix would lose subscribers with the crackdown on password sharing. On the contrary, they gained subscribers and is bringing even more revenue: https://www.ign.com/articles/netflix-adds-88-million-subscribers-amid-password-sharing-crackdown-hikes-prices-for-some-plans.

[-] danque@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

In other words, the general population likes to be used by companies and really don't give a shit as long as they can watch videos.

[-] businessfish 38 points 1 year ago

not so much that they like to be used by companies, but that they don't care enough to change or learn how to stop it. for most people, the idea of giving up their favorite online service because of ads or whatever other predatory anti consumer shit it implements is a little extreme.

as long as it works, the vast majority of people who are not tech-literate will just use it regardless.

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[-] uncle@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

Honestly, if YouTube offered a $5 adfree video plan I’d pay for it. It’s not worth $14/month in my opinion

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 year ago

I think these companies are starting to run into the brick wall caused by disgusting wealth inequality and the subsequent inability to spend as frivolously as needed for a healthy economy.

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Youtube would profit off of $2 a month the fact that they need to charge 14 is just greed

[-] oce@jlai.lu 21 points 1 year ago
[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

According to the latest reports, over 2.70 billion people worldwide use YouTube per month.

This was 2022 and there is conflicting figures, most of which are 2 billion to 2.8 billion regular users (regular use of at least once a week, most daily.) https://www.globalmediainsight.com/blog/youtube-users-statistics/

Google has claimed youtube costs 5 billion a year to run back in 2019 but has never put out a solid figure or statement to the public, Entourage Marketing & Design did research in 2019 but the article seems to be down as I can't locate the actual source. This could be inaccurate today but all information I've seen points to it still being single digit billions to operate year to year.

If these figures are accurate, 2USD from their claimed regular users would put them near their break even point without even considering income from advertisers or other investors and business opportunities. If they really did intend for every adult youtube user (roughly 80% of their audience) to pay them 14USD a month, that's still over five times their operating costs alone.

Clearly, youtube is getting a lot more money from advertisers then they are from premium users, which is why they are trying to make the free to use option on their website so awful and unbearable that people will pay them directly to skip the ads (though rumblings have been going around at them finding ways to insert ads into premium user viewing experience as well.) And since the advertising side is so toxic and predatory they can tell when people are using ad blockers to avoid it, it reports back they aren't watching ads and thus tries to prevent people from utilizing the service entirely until their participation generates money for youtube.

[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

That's the YouTube Premium Lite plan that they killed off less than a month ago.

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[-] SneakyWeasel@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

Sharing this: don't know why this works, but my dad found refreshing the cache in UBlock makes this thing finally shut the fuck up.

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

It updates Ublocks filters. They are updating those as YouTube changes things. Ublock has worked flawlessly on firefox YouTube for me so far. I have not even seen the popup once.

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[-] LeTak@lemm.ee 53 points 1 year ago
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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago
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[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ublock Origin Settings - Clear Cache - Update - Refresh Youtube

[-] n3cr0@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

I'm glad, uBlock Origin blocks all these adblock blockers.

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[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago
[-] JGrffn@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

It's a matter of who gets tired quicker at this point, YouTube, ublock maintainers, or users. We're on the losing side, and alternative front ends sound like the "we're cornered" solution. I imagine Google won't take long to break them as well.

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[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

A reminder that if this doesn't work, they'll bake ads into the player like Hulu and Twitch. Can't block those, at least in a way that gets you back to the content seemlessly.

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

then we'll just do a sponsorblock type solution which skips over the ad

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I knew Google would get around to killing YouTube sooner or later: Looks like the slow death has begun.

Like all things Google that people like: It must die, Google will not allow it to live.

Coming to you in 2025: GoogleTube, brought to you by Alphabet!

[-] ares35@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

there's enough people mindlessly consuming content off the site via mobile or tv, or are clueless about adblockers to begin with, youtube will continue to exist and be profitable even if every adblocking user never visited the site again.

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[-] Norgur@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

You can put up with that... Or you could just switch to a Piped instance and be done with it all.

[-] beeb@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

Piped is great, the content goes through a proxy so there's no interaction with YouTube servers and your account and subscriptions are also isolated.

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[-] krigo666@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just clear the YT sites' cookies, relog in and it disappears. I use AdNauseam and uBlock Origin and still got this.

If they weren't so intrusive with the garbage ads (I hate publicity, over 95% of it is condescending and/or lies), I wouldn't mind seeing an ad in the beggining, or even also an additional in the middle of a long video, but getting two unskippable ads in the beggining and one every 5 mins or less is abusive. So fuck you Google.

Going to install a local instance of Piped or Invidious.

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[-] SamVergeudetZeit@feddit.de 30 points 1 year ago

This pop up, did more to curb my youtube addiction than any other app.

[-] Squorlple@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

What could come of people clicking on the “Report issue” option and sending back tons of false reports claiming that they have gotten the pop-up message despite not using an ad-blocker?

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[-] Cookiesandcreamclouds@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

You WILL give us your attention and you will like it! -advertisers

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[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I see nothing wrong with Google wanting to make money on YouTube, and I actually own YouTube Premium myself.

But they should really fix YouTube experience, if you don't use subscriptions box, your main page will be filled with click-baity low-effort videos and that really sucks. There are also other issues as well.

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[-] owsei@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago
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[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago
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[-] uranibaba@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

While uBlock Origin does the trick and has for a every long time, I just installed FreeTube and I am quite happy with it. It is also much better at keeping track at what I have watched, and I can even mark videos as watch (which I cannot over at YouTube).

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 21 points 1 year ago

Start reporting it as an issue. I wonder what'll happen if enough people abuse the "report an issue" system.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago

They'll probably be ignored for abusing the report system.

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[-] drdabbles@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Vimeo wringing their hands thinking this is their chance.

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