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[-] switcheroo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

Pay your taxes, parasite

[-] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 1 points 1 hour ago

You can hire metric tons of human engineers for that.

[-] fubarx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

There are so many more worthwhile startup projects you can pour $12B into.

[-] angband@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

Wages for workers are the biggest line item for most companies. Owners hates it because that money is theirs, by golly. The concept of being part of an economy never enters their stream of consciousness, only the desire to optimize sucking money out of it.

[-] Somecall_metim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 16 hours ago

That 12 billion could have gone to health care, helping the homeless, improving schools, for research into diseases, into renewable energy sources or into making affordable houses.

But this is what we get.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 8 hours ago

Sure but how does that help the business world? Having happier healthier people that stay working age longer so they can take more wages? No! No wage! O ly work!

[-] realitista@lemmus.org 116 points 18 hours ago

“Significant productivity in the economy is going to raise the standard of living,” he said. “People who today have two-earner households, they’ll become one-earner households. Maybe some people who are working overtime will stop working overtime.”

I fucking love it when the exact people who make it their life's mission not to pay their employees living wages so that they can hoard wealth like an evil dragon come out and tell us that the new tech they are using to replace us will make us rich. Really fucking Jeff? How about we eat you and take it? That's the only way I see it happening.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

actually i disagree with this. money flow should look something like this:

the community (town, city) donates money to the people (UBI), they spend it to buy goods and services from companies (which make a profit that way), which then have to pay taxes to the community.

it's not companies' job to provide for people. that's politics' job.

[-] realitista@lemmus.org 4 points 4 hours ago

Sure, that's how it should work. But how it actually works is that Amazon pays an effective tax rate of 1.4%. Tesla pays an effective tax rate of 0%. Yes they pay no tax. Meta pays 3.6%.

The billionaires themselves pay lower tax rates than their secretaries and janitors. Both Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos have had years where they paid no tax. Larry Page and Mark Zuckerberg are paying effective tax rates around 13%.

So, yes I'd like to live in this fantasy world too. But the government can't raise enough taxes for a UBI by taking in only a fraction of the money that they themselves give out.

[-] axh@lemmy.world 37 points 18 hours ago

No, he said two-earner households, will become one-earner households, he didn't mention* anyone will become rich**, just that one person from the household will become unemployed.

(* at least he didn't mention it in the cited fragment. I didn't read the entire thing, my time is too precious, I must waste it on writing comments instead of reading sources.) (** Of course he will become richer, but that's the obvious part of the idea and doesn't need to be mentioned)

[-] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago

I didn’t read the entire thing, my time is too precious, I must waste it on writing comments instead of reading sources.

upvote for honesty :)

[-] realitista@lemmus.org 3 points 10 hours ago

How exactly will two earner households become one earner households without one of the earners making double the money?

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

The theory here is that if everyone is twice as productive, everything costs half as much in relation to what people earn.

Of course that doesn't work unless there's heavy competition in the market for everything.

[-] realitista@lemmus.org 1 points 4 hours ago

Yes that doesn't happen when monopolies dominate the economy as they do in the USA. Then the monopolies just take higher margins.

[-] axh@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Lol... By the magic of being poor

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

By becoming even poorer.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 13 points 16 hours ago

I've heard many a time from many a booster that AI will lead to UBI. This reminds me of that. CEOs selling delusion in a desperate attempt to distract from the reality, always claiming better lives are just around the next corner.

[-] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 10 hours ago

Yeah we will get a UBI but they won't pay taxes to fund it and will take jobs from the taxpayers who do pay. Same story as trickle down economics and we all know how that ended.

[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

The argument is always that “they’ll have to”. And really, it’s like “Bitch, they don’t care if you live or die. “

[-] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

I just need a few more ~~billion~~ trillion dollars, bro, I swear. Trickle down economics work, just a few more trillions. I swear, bro, AI will bring UBI, just several more trillion dollars, bro. I swear, bro.

[-] teft@piefed.social 14 points 13 hours ago

They better start putting fucking labels on AI engineered buildings and bridges because I sure as fuck am not getting inside or on one.

[-] GorGor@startrek.website 1 points 3 hours ago

You can buy a subscription to an ai designed database. We will always keep our paying customers safe and happy.

if your poor, try not being poor. Good luck.

[-] protist@retrofed.com 34 points 16 hours ago

$12 billion would pay for a lot of engineers...

[-] KingKong33@lemmy.ml 9 points 16 hours ago

Oh man, I misread that as $128!

[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 3 points 15 hours ago

That's less than a stick of ram...how did that make sense to you?

[-] KingKong33@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

(pssst, its called a joke)

[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 2 points 15 hours ago

How is I read this wrong a joke? It's almost inevitable that someone in any comment section feels the need to put their dyslexia on display for some odd reason. What makes this one humorous?

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago

Couple different layers of joke, actually.

The first is that they didn't actually misread $12B as $128, but saying so is a cheeky reference to how B and 8 look similar.

The second is sort of an attempt at absurdist humor. Obviously $128 is not going to get you very far towards building a physical AI engineer, and that question violates our rational expectations in a way that some find humorous.

[-] KingKong33@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago

Pick a fight somewhere else please. Have a good Friday!

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

We're all hoping for their failure.

[-] captchacrunch@piefed.social 40 points 17 hours ago

"You're absolutely right, I should not have built that bridge that way"

[-] liking625@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

They could just make an artificial general CEO and get rid of his payments altogether, stock holders would get a huge rise

[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 31 points 19 hours ago

One of the most evil people in the whole world.

[-] usernametbd@lemmy.zip 7 points 16 hours ago

They are so shocked that no one likes their fucking AI or their data centers. Yet the same people go around selling every investor on AI replacing workers. The same people go out of their way to cut every social safety net so they can get tax breaks to make themselves more obscenely rich. The same people raise prices, drive down wages, cut benefits, lay off people, and bust unions every chance they get to juice stock prices.

Gee golly, why don’t people trust us that we are making a better world? 🤦‍♂️

[-] oh_@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

All that money, and he does nothing of value for society. At least the OG evil rich guys of the 1900s did charitable things sometimes.

[-] KingKong33@lemmy.ml 4 points 16 hours ago
[-] eleijeep@piefed.social 5 points 11 hours ago

Yeah they donated to schools the history books that they had published saying that they did charitable things sometimes.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Ah, but can it blow up like a mushroom cloud?

[-] goatinspace@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago
[-] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago

But i like my job

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago
[-] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 1 points 15 hours ago

0.7% of a spacex?

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