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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by super_user_do@feddit.it to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

Why isn't anyone talking about this? It looks like Meta wants to compete with Twitter with a new Instagram microblogging app which will probably be compatible with Mastodon

Key Point of the article:

*“Soon, our app will be compatible with certain other apps like Mastodon,” Instagram’s slide says. “Users on these other apps will be able to search for, follow and interact with your profile and content if you’re public, or if you’re private and approve them as followers.” *

The Verge - This is Instagram’s new Twitter competitor

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[-] zekiz@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Instagram was the last one I expected to join the fediverse. They actually actively blocked 3rd party clients before and even shut them down.

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

My guess is that meta sees another one of their social media sites go down the drain and this time they want to try something to stop it.

[-] zekiz@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

My guess is that they want to use the already established userbase of Mastodon as a starting point. There's going to be more content from the start and also more users. If they would make a new app with no users they would need to start from scratch which is more risky.

[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They said it is going to work with Mastodon but we don't know if they are going to federate it. They are most likely to do so since they are actively talking about "decentralization" but who knows

[-] zekiz@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

In the article it says that people from Mastodon are able to interact with this. So it kinda seams like they are just making a new frontend based and their own instance of Mastodon. We just don't know if we are able to access their instance without their app.

[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago

Fair point! We just don't know the extent of the federation

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

I don't see this as a good thing. I see it as a logical step after the success of the fediverse. But I am afraid of how it will develop, with more commercial participants in fedi.

[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago

The only issues I can think of is that a mass adoption of the ActivityPub protocol would also bring plenty of spam accounts

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[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

It's not instagram itself, but a new app made by instagram

[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 6 points 1 year ago

Why does that even have the same name if the app is different lmao

[-] merjalane 8 points 1 year ago

It doesn't have any official name yet, but from what is known it would indeed be a separate app

[-] testman@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

by instagram

Isn't Instagram owned by Facebook / Meta?> test

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Time to break out the block cannon. Ain't no way that I let anything Zuck touches touch my stuff.

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

Anyone remembers Embrace - Extend - Extinguish? I don't expect this to be anything but an effort to crush a potential competitor

[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago

That might be an issue but I don't know how something like this might be appliable in such a platform

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Quoting from the article:

The strategy's three phases are:

  • Embrace: Development of software substantially compatible with a competing product, or implementing a public standard.
  • Extend: Addition and promotion of features not supported by the competing product or part of the standard, creating interoperability problems for customers who try to use the "simple" standard.
  • Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions.

This has been done for open protocols by other companies before, many, MANY times. They're likely going to "joyfully embrace" the Fediverse, add some "improvements" that will be proprietary and only run on their software, then when people become addicted to "Meta Fediverse", close things down dramatically so that people only run their stuff. We must prevent that bullshit.

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[-] Sagar@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago
[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Can people create their own instances of this app? Even if it can interoperate with other fediverse software, if this ends up being yet another big tech platform where your only choice is to use the one hosted by Meta it defeats the point.

[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago

As far as I've understood, it's a matter of embracing a new technological "trend" and lowering the management and maintenance costs so it's almost certain that some kind of self-hosting option will be available. I just hope it's not going to work like Bluesky which is not actually decentralized and always relies to the Bluesky infrastructure

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[-] WendyMsGator@aus.social 5 points 1 year ago

@super_user_do

I blocked Twitter RTs on here and will happily block Instagram rubbish as well.

[-] finickydesert@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago
[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

Probably in june

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

It's talking about a new app made by Meta. Key point from article:

“Soon, our app will be compatible with certain other apps like Mastodon,” Instagram’s slide says. “Users on these other apps will be able to search for, follow and interact with your profile and content if you’re public, or if you’re private and approve them as followers.”

[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago

Yes we just don't know the extent of the federation. We'll see

[-] lars@toot.berlin 3 points 1 year ago

@super_user_do @raucao “Users on these other apps will be able to search for […]“ written by someone who never spent a minute on Mastodon

[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago
[-] lars@toot.berlin 4 points 1 year ago

@super_user_do I know. And I’m sure the article cited an internal slide, made by someone who hasn’t heard about the Mastodon community’s attitude towards search

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Out of the loop, what's this attitude? New at the Fediverse and haven't heard of this before

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[-] LemmyNameMyself@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But Instagram is part of Meta. It's just as bad as Facebook, Whatsapp or any other Meta product when it comes to privacy and it will never be FOSS, so very much unlike Mastodon

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[-] gloating_swann@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago
[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago

No I lie man

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