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[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca 2 points 47 minutes ago

this page is a disaster

[-] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 8 points 9 hours ago

Given I'm new to lemmy, I learned the difference between some of the instances. Specifically lemmy.ml 🙃.

"Nah man, someone with good policy but they're caucusing as a democrat? Don't vote for them, they're not calling for seizure of private property, they're all scams!"

So you want me...to vote for the conservative? Like, wut?

"Start your own revolution!"

Uh huh. I'm ready for the call, but just as Lenin himself argued, a single person like myself won't help the people dying right now that way...the first person killed wouldn't be a billionaire, it'd more likely be myself, friends, family, or neighbors given the state's monopoly on violence.

They told me to read State and Revolution. They weren't expecting me to have already read it 🙃

[-] iocase@lemmy.zip 3 points 59 minutes ago

I fucking love this graphic

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago

They told me to read State and Revolution. They weren’t expecting me to have already read it 🙃

Good, but what about Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism?

[-] Tolc@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

so lenin told you to vote for imperialist genocidal pedophile party

[-] M137@lemmy.today 5 points 8 hours ago

It's so weird that the left has been put into two very odd boxes, "libs" and "tankies". I see so much, valid IMO, hate for both them here but also the only ones ever mentioned. It feels like the American conservatives actually managed to succeed at doing something, and very well so, with this as I really doubt this would have happened naturally. It's really fucked up, and I'm a random Swede and this shit has soured even our own forums, online and IRL discussions etc.

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Of course American conservatives can succeed, they have the entire US billionaire class supporting them. They have been succeeding for decades, even when a Dem president has been in office they have steadily pushed US policy further right.

But you hear critique of the left more than we critique the right here because why would I bother arguing with someone who has an ideology and worldview completely irreconcilable to mine?

[-] Tolc@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

libs are not part of the left, please

[-] nullspace@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Tankies themselves use liberal as an insult. There's definitely a difference between the two.

[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Of course, but many socialists here use the classic definition of a liberal. Which is annoying. Basically you have to translate into "neoliberal" when they say it. And yeah it's pretty stupid, but they don't want to accept the "rebranding" the neoliberals have managed to pull off.

Neoliberalism can be defined as the sincere moral belief in inequality based on money or wealth or class. Like if you are poor, your children should get worse food and education. Neoliberals believe this is morally correct. Neoliberals are not on the left, but are right wing. There are many who identify as leftists or liberals who accept neoliberal ideology because they simply can't imagine radical change. There are many thought terminating brainworms in their heads.

This also explains why it's so easy for neoliberals to transition to fascism. Fascism can be defined as the sincere moral belief in inequality - based on identity like ethnicity or gender. It's just a small hop. And the US foreign policy has been outright fascist for many decades anyway. Biden is a fascist. Hillary is a fascist. Obama is "just" a neoliberal, but fuck him too.

I have found communists here who want to rehabilitate Stalin for some insane reason. I haven't found a single "Tankie" who thinks Russia is still socialist or who are particularly happy with the human right issues or corruption in China, but still support them because they understand realpolitik. To me it seems the divide and hate overwhelmingly comes from the (non neo) liberals. Like OP is pure hatewagoning propaganda. Nobody "likes" seeing protesters shot.

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Wait I thought liberals were on board with capitalism? In what sense are they left wing?

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