Working people of all genders are not getting paid enough.
This is 100% true and factual.
In year 2000 poll, percentage of pro-choice people was 49% among both men and women. In 2006 it was 51% for both. Since 1995 and until 2020, the difference never exceeded 8%, peaking at 20% in 2025 correlating with political polarisation, with year 2010 men responding more pro-choice than women respondents by 5% (47% vs. 42%)‡.
Partisan divide was always more influential than the gender one, with pro-choice stance being 47% less popular among republican women than among democratic women; 42% gap for R/D men in 2020–2021 poll‡. If cisgender men could give birth, it wouldn't have more influence on their abortion stance than overall political beliefs.
‡ Gender Gaps on Abortion Reach Historic Highs | Gallup, June 2025
Did you know grey hyenas have a matriarchal society? Females are more aggressive, dominant and hold different social status to males. They aren't less horrible than patriarchal hyenas.
The problem isn't the males or the females. It's that they're hyenas.
And they give birth through a pseudo penis that is torn apart.
I don’t think it brings anything useful to the conversation, but it is an interesting fact.
This conversation is now about hyenas.
Are you a hyena?
Are you not?
You're way behind. That's why laws approved are no longer named after what they really do. Who decides that a specific law harms a specific population? The same people approving them... So... Yeah.
What? No. Laws are never named after what they do, they're named HR#### or something. Acts are nicknamed, like Obamacare or the PATRIOT act, but they've always been political and not descriptive.
And the people who write the laws are not the same people who "approve" them, in theory.
What is up with Lemmy, men and pregnancy??
Did I miss the new meta?
I was thinking the same thing. First something about moths(I don't really get what that was about), then Loss, now this. What's next?
This would be such an extreme warping of reality that it’s essentially impossible to make any assumptions about what it would entail like this. You know the joke about a time traveller moving a rock? Yeah, that times a million.
This here. If men would give birth, they would be women.
So much of what makes up the differences between the male and female experiences is down to the fact that women give birth.
If it was the men who gave birth and not the women, we'd have pretty much everything we have now, just gender-reversed.
Cool angle, but it breaks down biologically.
Obviously 🤣
If all things were the same, but it was men who fell pregnant and gave birth, well then all things but the one would be the same. Because it clearly says that all things, besides the one, would be the same.
True.
We would just have hysterectomies. Why the fuck would we want such a disadvantage?
Believe it or not, there are some men who want kids.
The post did not state that men no longer had penises and were incapable of inseminating others.
If males gave birth then it would be females that competed for access to us and became physically stronger than males. The only thing that would change is the name of the physically and politically powerful gender.
It wouldn't make society better. Hyenas have bigger stronger dominant females and they have no utopia. Seahorse males give birth, they are the more maternal, females cheat on them.
Only fundamental difference between male and female is size and motility of sex cells. Only reason animals like us vary in size and strength is due to difference in offspring investment strategies.
if both sexes were hermaphroditic, then there would be less conflict as in other animals whom posesses both sexes gonads.
If men bore the children then women would have to do the sexual pursuing. The human race would quickly die out.
I wonder if maybe women would have more time and energy to do the actual pursuing then, instead of being sidelined, oppressed, saddled with the labor of care work which is necessary for the continuation of the human race. Are you saying birthing men wouldn’t take on that care work?
No, there wouldn't be.
The policy would be the same, because the issue of abortion makes the two ruling parties way too much money to make it worth legalizing or banning completely. Hell, when the leak of the Roe repeal occurred, Democrats raked in $80,000,000 alone. A cool $80,000,000 and all they had to do was pretend to care about abortion by making a tweet or something.
OP is incorrect.
It’s not that simple and I say that as a woman. It’s about ownership of the idea that having kids is a “right” even if no one likes you enough to want to carry your genes forward, putting health and body at risk to make it so. In addition to the lifelong commitment childbearing requires.
The fact that you have to take some degree of ownership of another human being to treat childbirth this way is obscene, but here we are. Roe fell.
It’s more about entitlement. I can’t conceive of doing the same in reverse positions.
If men could give birth everyone would tell them to man the fuck up and deal with it.
Boynecologist and boybortion should be Guynecologist and aboytion.
Just saying.
Clearly, we have to genetically modify all men to be hyenas, so that they can experience the Miracle of Life through their dicks. /S.
men have the anti-mullerien hormone from the Y chromosone to stop female secondary characteristics during fetal development. rarely there are disorders that prevent that gene from activating or it goes missing and they develop as a female, minus having the extra biological X CHromosone.
Men can get pregnant if we want to get technical.
And I dare to venture a guess that trans men who get pregnant likely have much more shit to deal with than cis women.
Is it a hostility to some essential concept of women, or a way to devalue reproduction caring and domestic labor? Which force is stronger, more original?
All this post proves is that people have no fucking clue what abortion entails
I kind of think there should be a constitutional amendment preventing legislatures from passing laws restricting the rights on a protected class. Like men can't vote on laws which take rights away from women. Or straight people can't pass laws banning LGBTQ material.
Polling suggests that around 70% of women and 50% of men support abortion, though. If those stats simply reversed then nothing really changes.
Please. Men vastly outnumber women in the legislature. If those numbers flipped there would be DRASTIC change.
Dude, this is older than you. It's older than me.
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If men got their periods we’d have a shop vac attachment that got rid of it in a few seconds.
technically they can give birth under unusual circumstances.
ok so i might be wrong here, but abortions can be safely and reliably carried out with pills, right?
and it's very difficult to actually check every package and letter that is sent whether it contains illegal pills. at least that's my guess. so would it be possible to buy abortion pills from the netherlands, the same way that one can buy drugs?
Correct, but depending on legislation the punishment might be so high that the risk is not worth it for many people.
A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.
Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:
If you made it this far, showerthoughts is accepting new mods. This community is generally tame so its not a lot of work, but having a few more mods would help reports get addressed a little sooner.
Whats it like to be a mod? Reports just show up as messages in your Lemmy inbox, and if a different mod has already addressed the report, the message goes away and you never worry about it.