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fishing for math (feddit.de)
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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 51 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 33 points 11 months ago

I like the extended version, though I'm almost certain I saw an even more expanded version somewhere, though I haven't been able to find it again.

[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social 9 points 11 months ago

That's tough to swallow. Philosophy almost belongs at both ends.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 5 points 11 months ago

No, I mean, I remember there being a further expanded version that adds more steps between social sciences and philosophy. I haven't been able to find it though.

[-] OpenStars@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

Mathematics is the only branch of science that will continue long after the universe ends.:-)

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 18 points 11 months ago

Math is literally made up. There is no physical basis for math. Math is just another language used to describe things. The universe doesn't care whether there's "2 particles" or "1 particle and another particle" or "1 particle + 1 particle". It doesn't make these distinctions. Math only exists as long as there is an intelligent species which uses it. If there are no intelligent brains capable of using math and with a knowledge that it exists, math stops existing.

[-] girl@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Except there is math in nature, such as fractals, the Fibonacci sequence, and the wave behavior or sound and light. Sure nature doesn’t have any awareness of doing math, but it is there. Not all math is made up just for our understanding.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's kinda the point though. Math is a language inspired by reality. It describes the logical relationships between things in an abstract format. Physical sciences like physics or chemistry build off it by adding rules and units to more accurately describe or predict real-world relationships, but at the end of the day, it's all made up. Nature isn't doing math to create a fractal any more than you're doing math when you move your fingers or toes. Math doesn't create a fractal, it describes it! You can then use that description to create a fractal, but the fractal isn't math.

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

This conversation reminds me of the first couple times i surfed Reddit over a decade ago. It was so cool to be in a place where intelligent and interesting discussion was happening.... Wish i could contribute something useful to it, but i just want to thank you all for carrying that kind of energy into the '20s 🥂

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Math isn't really made up. It's an innate property of the universe at minimum being interpreted by humans as numbers and equations.

It can also literally be what the universe is made of.

PBS Spacetime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F__elfR3w8c

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You mean logic. Math is describing this in formulas. Some even make up nonsense with formulas. Wasn't there a scientific 'proof of god' with flawed logic years ago?

[-] anzich@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

Technically true but most math is motivated by nature

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And it has an awkward syntax. That i can have this opinion at all is already proof of it being made up. Which is applied logic btw.

[-] DarkenLM@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Pretty sure that when humanity dies, math dies with it, and the universe won't give two fucks about it and continue on it's merry way.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Think e meant in the sense that math is true regardless of the universe (or some people believe)

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] SkyeStarfall 20 points 11 months ago

How in the world did you manage to make that image so small

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

They probably copied the url for a thumbnail by mistake.

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I copied the URL from Google. I thought I got the right one. It looks fine on my phone. Must look different on desktop.

[-] girl@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

it is teeny on my phone lol

[-] RedditRefugee69@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Can anyone read what the next person says?

[-] Motzart@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago
[-] Crul@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Extended version 1 (legible): http://i.imgur.com/WVGF9.jpg

Arranged by complexity: http://i.imgur.com/hDa0P5M.png

Extendend version 2: https://i.imgur.com/POrlDF4.png

Source:

cc @SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone @Zorque@kbin.social @girl@lemm.ee @RedditRefugee69@lemmy.world

Found via reverse image search:

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Extended version 3: an actuarial analyst preparing for another exam connecting the math with the money.

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

As an engineer, we would be fishing from the black cat's bucket

[-] mcc@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

As a manager, I would ask you to file a Jira ticket first.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Hey, I raised a ticket

It just went through the board into done within 5s of me creating it...

[-] TheMechanic@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

Archimedes constant for pi is good enough to get to the moon. Send it.

Not with a rod. But with a hairdryer.

[-] Couplqnd@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I always say this to annoy my math and science friends

Engineers live in the real world

Scientists live in the ideal world

And mathematicians..... live in their own world

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

this is exactly why i like math. i get to play pretend in my own little world

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

Engineers live in the real world

Yeah, that cat is definitely a cylinder

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

I feel like the raccoon needs to be handing off "his" fish to an engineer to gut and scale and fillet for him.

[-] CyberTailor@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

Newton 🗿

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