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[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 65 points 1 year ago

Don't forget we're the good guys, everyone!

[-] mundane@feddit.nu 36 points 1 year ago
[-] APassenger@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

And we didn't fight it because the enemy were bad people. We fought it because we were attacked.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yep, we don't teach in us schools the isolationist position of ww2 or the war profiteering during both ww¹ and ww² while playing the isolationist.

[-] steltek@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Between the indiscriminate chemical weapons and the nepotistic generals ordering hundreds of thousands to their futile deaths, isolationism in WW1 was still probably the right idea.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sure but you'd have to actually be isolationist not war profiteers.

[-] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Are you saying barring Pearl Harbor the US would not have participated in WWII?

[-] steltek@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

We were already participating in WW2 before Pearl Harbor. Lend-Lease was packing the UK chock full o' guns, food, and oil. The "Arsenal of Democracy" speech was 1940.

[-] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 32 points 1 year ago

And waited until it was already clear that the Nazis we going to lose before entering the European theatre.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

And dropped two nukes just to flex its powers. Mind you those nukes were dropped at the end when it was only about time for Japan to capitulate. Killing directly and indirectly hundreds of thousands of innocents.

Don't forget the fire bombs over Tokyo, a city of mostly paper and bamboo houses, causing an exodus for innocent people.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago
[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

does anyone know another word for complicit, I'm tired of saying it

[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Washington traditionally shields its ally Israel from any Security Council action.

The rest of the article is extra.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Came here to say this... The US has been doing this for decades.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We are no strangers to genicides so no surprise here. How did Israel, founded by genicide survivers become the ones doing the genicide?! (rhetorical)

[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Genocide, uh, finds a way.

From an evolutionary perspective, the history of life is made from genocides, with survivors riding on top. Everybody's fighting for their niche.

Similarly, the abrahamic religions compete for their access to the Holy Land.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yes to

Genocide finds a way

But absolutely not to

life is made from genocides

Humanity reached its current level because way more cooperation and kindness than war and genicide. We are just predisposed to focusing on the bad things. No one notices someone that does small acts of kindness.

[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

True. But if you zoom further out, it becomes genocides again. The rise of humans was only possible for the downfall of other species. The rise of human civilization spelled doom for many others.

Ok, genocide strictly only applies to other humans. Anyways the core idea remains: For one culture to spread, others have to give way.

No one notices someone that does small acts of kindness.

Sad, isn't it? History books are like a gallery of psychopaths grabbing for more and more power.

[-] LaLiLuLuCo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

There's also a literal loophole in the regional morality system where once hostages are taken almost everyone is down to start war criming.

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We need a new UN without the US. It is only there as Israel's PR spokesman.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Can we also get rid of all the Arabic countries passing countless resolutions about Israel in the UN? Pretending they don't have a bias is like pretending SA is a bastion of women's rights.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It is not like Israel has been a human-rights role-model. You can open whichever human rights watch group and see what they think about it, or Wikipedia.

And the whole reason Israel exists as a country is thanks to the UN.

[-] jalda@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Ah, yes. those Arabic countries like *checks notes* Brazil

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 15 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The vote on the Brazilian-drafted text was twice delayed in the past couple of days as the United States tries to broker aid access to Gaza.

Ambassador Zhang Jun accused the United States of leading council members to believe that the resolution could be adopted after it did not comment or express opposition during negotiations.

Thomas-Greenfield said the United States was disappointed the draft resolution made no mention of Israel's rights of self defense and she blamed Hamas for the Gaza humanitarian crisis.

The draft resolution also urged Israel - without naming it - to rescind its order for civilians and U.N. staff in Gaza to move to the south of the Palestinian enclave and condemns "the terrorist attacks by Hamas."

It has vowed to annihilate Hamas after the Islamist militant group killed 1,400 people and seized hostages in an Oct. 7 attack on Israel.

The draft U.N. resolution condemned all violence and hostilities against civilians and all acts of terrorism and called for the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages.


The original article contains 518 words, the summary contains 172 words. Saved 67%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[-] febra@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Russia veto: GENOCIDAL MANIACS

US veto: Go Go Israel <3

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 10 points 1 year ago

"We are on the ground doing the hard work of diplomacy," U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, told the 15-member council after the vote. "We believe we need to let that diplomacy play out."

"Yes, resolutions are important. And yes, this council must speak out. But the actions we take must be informed by the facts on the ground and support direct diplomacy efforts. That can save lives. The council needs to get this right," she said.

US not only want to play hero, they want to play THE hero it seems.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not clear on what the action proposed to do. I read both the article and the bot summary. Sort of lost on the jargon I guess. Could anyone explain, perhaps with a quote?

[-] octatron@lmy.drundo.com.au 2 points 1 year ago

Time to kick the US to the curb. Fuck em and their Christian BS. Do what must be done rest of the world. Permanent trade sanctions for Israel!

[-] octatron@lmy.drundo.com.au 2 points 1 year ago

Time to kick the US to the curb. Fuck em and their Christian BS. Do what must be done rest of the world. Permanent trade sanctions for Israel!

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