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[-] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 71 points 1 year ago

So that's why my western war musical failed so hard.

[-] yowhat@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

You can also try to recoup your money by releasing a behind the scenes documentary about the horrifying financial crimes that went on during production of the first film.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I heard about that western war musical. I was excited to see "Alamo!" but they didn't advertise it out here so I forgot.

[-] bob_lemon@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Great, now I have Texans singing about the Alamo in my head.

"Cannibal! The Musical" came close to the genre.

[-] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago

Just make a documentary about it

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago

Cool but awful design, why is every graph in a different scale

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 year ago

So that you can compare the relative changes over the years without having a tiny line for less popular genres.

[-] DrMango@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It actually tells you right below the title why they've chosen to do that

[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Depends on the goal of the visualization. This is an excellent choice if the goal is to show relative popularity changes over time, not absolute popularity relative to each other.

That said, the y-axes should be more prominent to draw readers' attention to the differing scales to decrease the chance this graph is misread.

It's also not explicitly stated that movies can be tagged with more than one genre, but, eyeballing the numbers, I'm pretty sure that must be the case.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago

This graph sucks, the y axis differs between the genres

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, romance is way past its peak but still above sci-fi + fantasy combined

[-] anarchist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

It says so in the text there. This feels like the only way anyway, since the boundaries between genres are fuzzy and it's not possible to decisively compare genre tags on IMDB.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Graphs are for visual representation, a table is more apt for what you’re describing

[-] raubarno@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

Unpopular opinion: I hate horror.

[-] LeonenTheDK@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

Personally I only dislike the horror that's purely for jump scares/shock/gore. I find it cheap and not engaging.

[-] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Theres a line between those/slashers and psycological horror, which is probably more in your alley.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I love shitty jump scare horror when I’m faced on molly for some reason. Otherwise I like slow burn horror.

[-] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah most horror movies I've watched are plain and boring.

[-] wols@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

What do you hate about it?
I'm generally just uninterested in genres I don't enjoy, save for movies that instill and spread hate and intolerance or try to pass off falsehoods as fact.

[-] raubarno@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I hate horror just because I cannot withstand it and begin panicking. It's damn too stressful, esp. when there's too much stress IRL. That's what I meant.

[-] wols@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

That's fair enough, thanks for elaborating!

[-] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

I don't like the stress/strain sensations it puts my body through. It's not enjoyable. Being scared isn't fun.

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[-] plaguesandbacon@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago

Other than being a crappy design, this graphic is almost 6 years old

[-] dunidane@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago
[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It really is a shame, even though the actual west was nothing like most if not all westerns, it’s so unique and I think has a lot of untapped potential

Edit: I think the best we’ll ever get is westerns made in a different genre, this is my opinion but I think Inglourious Basterds is a western set in WWII. I could see more things like that from different directors, although in fairness you could make that comparison to a lot of Tarantinos work

[-] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

I think of westerns as a fantasy historical period genre. That period was chosen because it represented a jingoistic mythical American origin story. But we could build myths about a different period instead. There’s lots of untapped historical and cultural potential out there.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I agree, it effectively already is that, it’s just that at least half of those myths are fucking horrific. But the genre, in my very white opinion, doesn’t have to be problematic. And while I know it’s not a film but Red Dead 2 is a good example

[-] Teodomo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's funny how actual war, romance and to an extent crime are nothing like their movie genre usually show them to be

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If crime were like(the first half) of Goodfellas I’d quit my job tomorrow and become a gangster

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You're right, westerns don't have to be 1880's, west of the Mississippi. There are excellent modern examples:

  • Hell or High Water (2016)
  • Wind River (2017)
  • No Country for Old Men (2007)
[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 12 points 1 year ago

I'm so glad musicals are dying out.

Also the fact that Thrillers and Horrors are steadily becoming more popular is kind of concerning. There seems to be a growing latent appetite for murder in the general population. lol

[-] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

You lament the growing appetite for murder yet readily praise the death of musicals.

If I had 3 of my friends and a piano, we'd dance and sing our frustrations at you!

[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

musicals make me want to murder

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Alternatively, people's appetite is unchanged, but the way they express it is changing towards consumption of visual media.

[-] wombatula@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nanook of the North (1922) is considered to be the first documentary ever made, so how is there a giant spike on the documentary graph at 1910, and a smaller one shortly after?

[-] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I suspect there might be some different terms grouped together under documentary.

Found this, but not sure how this works towards the larger picture (I need some coffee lol).

https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?genres=history,documentary

[-] bakachu@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

It's too bad this data only runs up to 2018. The current/post pandemic era I think has made us all somewhat different consumers of film nowadays. Still cool to see though what we trending towards.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bring back westerns and musicals!

Give us Blazing Saddles: The Musical!

[-] Teodomo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I've seen this pic a couple times before but this is the first time I wonder how the Drama genre graph would look like

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[-] Deebster@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago

What genre are superhero films? Fantasy? Sci-fi? E.g. what is Superman or X-Men?

[-] tycho@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

Both. Maybe leaning a little bit more on sci-fi since they try to explain many things with science like kryptonite. But definitely also fantasy for X-Men, mutants have superpowers because the DNA does ... things.

[-] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I dislike the common definition of sci-fi as science-flavored fantasy. It's just not a useful distinction to me vs plain 'fantasy'. What I love the most about sci-fi is the exploration of what it means to be human by projecting the implications of drastically improved technology. All a matter of taste, of course.

I'm curious, though: why should a kryptonite explanation be any more sciency than mutant DNA? I see one as an entirely unexplained magic rock, and the other as an extension of the scientific triumph of understanding genetics (plus hilariously and deliberately misunderstanding evolution). X-Men is very nearly sci-fi to me; if mutants were a human creation it would be.

[-] tycho@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

I wanted to say that it's hard to define exactly what is or isn't sci-fi. Really I'm just a sci-fi enjoyer and am not qualified to say what is or isn't sci-fi :D

Kryptonite for me is clearly a magic rock but in the movie it is in the realm of their science. Also there was a movie where the existence of superman led to a lot of questioning on its implications in defense politics so it could fit some part of your definition I guess?

So like superman is science-based and X-Men is also you're right and it does clearly ask what it means to be human when there are augmented humans now. So clearly more sci-fi than superman.

But films can be both sci-fi and fantasy. It feels like a sliding rule depending on the amount the universe is based on hardcore science. On the DNA subject, Gattaca is not fantasy but X-Men is.

To me it feels similar to the debate about "hard magic" universes like Eragon (where every spell has a physical toll on the user, or other book series where the magic is really detailed in-universe and only mastered by experts who have to study their whole life for even a basic spell) and "soft magic" like Harry Potter where everyone can cast crucifixion spells at the speed of an automatic rifle (I'm slightly exaggerating).

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