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On Tuesday, May 19, the U.S. House passed H.R. 2616, the "Stopping Indoctrination and Protecting Kids Act," by a vote of 217-198. The bill would hand the Trump administration enormous leverage to strip federal funding from any school that “teaches or advances concepts” related to transgender people, codifying into federal law the anti-trans definitions from Trump's executive order 14168, "Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism." It would also require public schools to forcibly out transgender students to their parents before using their pronouns or chosen names. The bill is significant on its own terms for the harm it would inflict on transgender youth if it became law. But what made Tuesday's vote especially notable was the eight Democrats who joined every Republican to pass it—the largest Democratic defection on any standalone anti-trans bill of this Congress.

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[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 18 points 2 days ago

When I said both are the same, no one wanted to hear it. I didn't mean vote for the regressives, I meant it's time for guillotines.

People of course, twisted it to mean I was doing a whataboutism.

Well, even a mentally disabled man like me could see it coming years ago!

[-] zoloftt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

This is a shit take. ALL Rs voted for this. No dems NEEDED to vote for this for it to pass, but some did. If we want to make the Dem party an acutal progressive party, then these Nazi pieces of shit need to be primaried. This doesn't make all Dems nazis...

It's a shit system but you aren't going to change it by 1) not voting and 2) generalizing.

Vote. For individuals. Not because they are Dem, but because you've dug into a candidate and found them to match your beliefs.

Fix your attitude, or the progressives will never make it.

[-] imhungry@leminal.space 4 points 2 days ago

Democratic party is controlled opposition and many party members are friends or friendly with Republican party members, and attend the same social events.

[-] zoloftt@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

You can believe that, and it's also a shit take. So primary them. I'm not disagreeing that some of them are shit, but writing the whole lot off is a bad take and it's what leads to disinterest in people who would normally vote for SOMETHING.

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The primary is no guaranteed method of change. The DNC is a private club. A primary vote could literally be 100% for a single candidate and the DNC could pick an entirely different candidate with no legal repercussions.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That would be a good way for them to actually prompt a new political party.

[-] zoloftt@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Totally, so who wants to kick off a new progressive party?

I think starting at the local level and changing the party from within is the most feasible approach.

Look at Mamdani, and various other progressives that have made it into their local governments.

[-] imhungry@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago

It would be nice if we had multiple parties, instead of two parties controlled by the same group of people and entities.

[-] zoloftt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Totally. I would absolutely get on board with an actual Progressive party if there was one.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah and if wishes were fishes there would be no room in the ocean for water.

[-] imhungry@leminal.space 1 points 1 day ago

Well, we live in a dictatorship with a shadow government. They're not going to give us a third party because the second party is just controlled opposition anyway. The reason you think you can vote your way out of this is because you're the last line of the poem.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

I will give you a small spoiler.

All the politicians, with the exception of very very few, like Mamdami, need to be guillotined abruptly, and almost simultaneously.

[-] zoloftt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Sure, that sounds great. You going to get right on that?

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

No, I'm getting on disability 😀

Just explaining what it would take to turn things around.

Any of them bunkers down, or slips beneath notice, and they rot the system again.

[-] zoloftt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I mean, that's part of the problem right? Some folks talk about the guillotine and yet do nothing about it.

And you assume the problem goes away if it's possible to guillotine them all. New ones pop up everyday, guillotine today would probably work. Still need to have a better attitude about the overall problem if you want things to be better after.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

You don't understand.

This generation of elites are an unique actually. They explicitly want to wipe out humanity, have bitter resentment, and the skills/resources to do so.

It would take a very long time for more to come, we can eatablish strong anti-trust laws and try to go for a tech victory...

[-] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

This is a dumbass take.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Please explain how "both sides are the same" =/= "whatabought the other team"

There is almost never a third option.

One side can be shamed, and sometimes even does a good thing. The other side..... 99.9% turbo evil.

Guillotines will not make life better. North Korea ended up with work camps and famine. China ended up with work camps and famine. The Soviet Union ended up with gulags and famine. See the trend?

Even France, the OG, Ended up with the Terror, then Napoleon, and they were so traumatized they went back to monarchy.

Calls for Guillotines are calls for mass death and usually secret police and famine. Nobody can ensure that the "right" people will suffer the violence and you definitely can't promise that only the guilty will suffer from the secret police and starvation.

If you think the status quo is as bad or worse than the terror I welcome you to kick it off. There are plenty of other Mario characters we can name you after.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

They are just doing the bare minimum in order to create the illusion that there is a second option.

Both completelly hate your guts, and want to see the poor killed off.

Now, voting democrat shows them that there is some resistance, so they back off for a while.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They are just doing the bare minimum in order to create the illusion that there is a second option.

They aren't that smart.

Both completelly hate your guts, and want to see the poor killed off.

They have lots of desires, because they are hundreds and thousands of individuals. They aren't that united.

Now, voting democrat shows them that there is some resistance, so they back off for a while.

They have a theory of what Americans want, and they only pass what the stupidest, greediest member of their legislative body thinks. That's why it seems malicious. To get good things to happen, you need to move the floor of the elected party.

Threatening violence can help with that, like the black panthers. Or Blair mountain. But that way lies great personal risk.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Are we still doing the "they are just dumb" narrative? They are very much obviously malicious. Peter Thiel blatantly wants transhumans to replace us.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Peter Theil is not a Democrat.

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I'm one of the stupidest men alive and even I have more awareness of the state of US politics than most American liberals. You mention that 'vote blue no matter who' is the height of idiocy and receive responses about how not voting is for idiots.

Of course it is, because not voting isn't the suggestion being made, but it certainly is a useful straw man for the absolute broomsticks who can't swallow the fact their beloved Democrats are just as complicit in the American political charade.

[-] imhungry@leminal.space 3 points 2 days ago

Of course they did.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

let me guess these Ds are actually DINOs, not really surprising.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

The regression in the US is just staggering. It's like watching an empire devolve into monkeys.

[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And there it is, the real reason nobody trust America anymore.

Not simply the trans persecution, people have their opinions and feeling about the topic and YADA-YADA, This isn't about that.

It's clear Americas politician are ok with Donald even if they pretend to hate him in front of the cameras, weak people in office only looking out for themselves. That nation can't be trusted.

I don't blame people for not voting, the idea I have to vote for one of 2 shit birds because "democracy" is braindead and willfully ignores the issues at hand, to the people who feel this way I would them tell them to leave the country For a socity that would appreciate them, it's the only change they can make in their live that will actually help them.

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[-] ZDL@lazysoci.al 58 points 3 days ago

Right wing party members vote for right wing bill.

Is there anybody surprised by this? The Democrats are only "the left" by American standards. The rest of the world has them centre-leaning right wing.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

considering most of the Ds are actually DInos, AND NOT "democrats", its just mostly 1 uniparty. they have AOC, and bernie thats about how much they will allow in the party, and another platform said, aoc and bernie is likely only in the CONGRESS because they take the heat off the gop/DNC so thier parties dont get taken over by more "progressive/leftist" candidates. why do you think they railed on Madmani(butchered his name) so hard, it something they dint APPROVE.

both parties make backdoor deals that never reaches the MSMs, likely they compromise on somethings to make it look like they are fighting against each other.

[-] bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 9 points 3 days ago

Bingo. There is no left party in the US, despite what MAGA has been brainwashed to believe. And, a giant issue in the US is having two parties only.

And no, it's not that both parties are the same across the board. That's a libertarian cop-out. There are clear policy differences.

However, one issue which unites both parties is money. Both parties are bought and sold by corporations, and that needs to be handled. Crucially: there is no system in place to allow voters to correct this.

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[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 14 points 3 days ago

I guess we just need to vote D harder. 🤣😭

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[-] flandish@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

STOP. VOTING. FOR. CAREER. POLITICIANS. (rep and dem alike; they are all inhuman monster pieces of shit.)

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There is nothing wrong with making a career out of politics. Like any other business, the system operates better with experienced, knowledgeable people operating it. We are currently seeing the results of amateurs in office.

The difference is between Good Faith and Bad Faith politicians. I'll take a Good Faith politician like Bernie for decades, while I am happy to see a Bad Faith guy like Fetterman gone after one term.

[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

And this is how you lose elections.

[-] BeardededSquidward 10 points 3 days ago

But blue no matter who! The lesser of two evils! No one is perfect! Do you want Trump to win!? Disingenuous argument that tries to cover for how shitty neo-liberals are.

[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 days ago

Literal Nazi shit.

[-] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Hava democrat loko ne Mari naku juiye

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 days ago

I know who I won't be supporting but rather actively against. You don't care about people that I love, get the fuck out.

It's be nice if the names were all at the top of the article. But I did see a couple of names skimming through (I woke up late and we have a guest to entertain). I'll come back to read it later to learn more.

Once again, go to hell, bigots.

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

8 congressional Democrats are added to a list.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 30 points 3 days ago

The eight: Vicente Gonzalez (D-TX), Henry Cuellar (D-TX), Don Davis (D-NC), Cleo Fields (D-LA), Laura Gillen (D-NY), Marcy Kaptur (D-OH), Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (D-WA), and Eugene Vindman (D-VA).

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Vindman? Now that's a disappointment.

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